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10ISTANBUL8
2010-01-07 08:54:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Consulate Istanbul
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RELIGIOUS MINORITIES ANXIOUS ABOUT PROGRESS IN

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ISTANBUL 000008 

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/05/2020
TAGS: OSCE PGOV PHUM PREL GR TU
SUBJECT: RELIGIOUS MINORITIES ANXIOUS ABOUT PROGRESS IN
2010

REF: 09 ISTANBUL 464

Classified By: CONSUL GENERAL SHARON A. WIENER FOR REASONS 1.4(B) AND (
D)

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ISTANBUL 000008 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/05/2020 TAGS: OSCE PGOV PHUM PREL GR TU SUBJECT: RELIGIOUS MINORITIES ANXIOUS ABOUT PROGRESS IN 2010 REF: 09 ISTANBUL 464 Classified By: CONSUL GENERAL SHARON A. WIENER FOR REASONS 1.4(B) AND ( D) ¶1. (SBU) Summary. On December 23, on the occasion of Universal Human Rights Month and as an opportunity to look at the year in review for minority religious freedom, the Consul General hosted a luncheon with five leaders representing the Baha'i, Jewish, Alevi, Greek, and Protestant minority religious communities. The animated discussion addressed the GOT's action, albeit slow, on minority rights; the GOT's strained relationship with the Alevi population in Turkey; the societal and governmental challenges minorities confront; and, the widely shared trepidation about movement forward on religious freedom in Turkey in 2010. The most valuable aspect of the lunch, they agreed, was the opportunity to meet and discuss with one another. While all were leaders within their minority community, due to natural cultural segregation and an under-appreciation of their shared stake, most had never met one another and all agreed that they should meet regularly to discuss common problems and prospective solutions. End Summary. Birds of a Feather . . . ? -------------- ¶2. (SBU) All participants at the lunch expressed their surprise at not having met one another before, given their common interests in the arena of property and religious rights. President of the Alevi organization Cem Vakfi, Izzetin Dogan, was critical of the lack of mutual support among minority religious groups, especially with regard for incorporation of those religions that are not recognized officially by the GOT. "Although I have been defending your rights everywhere, you are very hesitant to raise your voice for Alevis." Honorary president of the Jewish Community, Bensiyon Pinto, concurred and said that in his 14 years as president of the Jewish Community, this was the first time he had met Dogan, although he knew of him by name. Pinto emphasized the need for more coordination on topics of shared concern and a better flow of information among the minority organizations. Secretary General of the Baha'i Community, Farzad Kuchani, also agreed on the need for additional cooperation and dialogue and suggested meeting regularly and communicating shared problems to the GOT together. "Unofficial" Religions: No Places of Worship -------------- - �
00A; ¶3. (SBU) Timur Topuz, president of the Istanbul Protestant Foundation, and Dogan both expressed distinct concerns about the official designation of places of worship. Because the Istanbul Protestant Foundation has foundation status, 50 percent of its administrative building's electric bills are covered by the Diyanet (Ministry of Religion). The Diyanet provides this "mosque discount" to all officially registered religious foundations. However, Topuz noted that the churches themselves do not have foundation status and therefore have no legal standing as a place of worship. The number of available legal sites of worship is not sufficient to meet the needs of the 5,000 members of the community. The churches have been repeatedly unsuccessful in securing additional places of worship for their community due to strict regulations, including the requirement that the building be at least 2,500 square meters in size. Despite their good relationship with the Armenian Church and the Church has property available for use, the protestant community is unable to use these GOT-sanctioned places of worship. Dogan also emphasized that while the Diyanet collected taxes from Turkey's 20 - 25 million Alevis, it does not recognize the place of worship used by the Alevis - cem evler - as legitimate and therefore provides this population with no services. (NOTE: The number of Alevis may be as low as 10 million, but the GOT does not collect information on religious affiliation in censuses. END NOTE.) Alevis -------------- ¶4. (SBU) Dogan alleged that Alevis do not enjoy the full rights of Turkish citizenship due to discrimination from the GOT. Many Alevis do not reveal their religious identity for fear of not being hired for critical government and private sector jobs. As an example, he challenged that one would never see an Alevi full-general in Turkey. According to ISTANBUL 00000008 002 OF 002 Dogan, the GOT's handling of the Alevis' situation will determine the future of other minority populations. If the GOT does not provide legal status for Alevi cem evler, he contended, the situation may be open to provocation as the Alevis are a large group that can be easily rallied. Dogan responded to a question regarding the organization of the Alevi population by suggesting that groups within the Turkish state and GOT recognize the political potential of the Alevi population and therefore support the emergence of new Alevi groups to discourage unification in one political bloc. ¶5. (U) To educate the public and government on issues of religious freedom and minority rights, the Cem Vakfi manages two television stations and one radio program. Dogan said the foundation encourages other religious communities to appear on their programs. (Note: Poloff has suggested topics to producers of the Cem Vakfi program "The Gray Areas of Human Rights in Turkey," and connected them with leaders of other religious minorities.) Governmental and Societal Challenges -------------- ¶6. (C) Laki Vingas, the only member of the General Directorate of Foundations board representing all minority religious foundations, expressed his caution about working openly in concert with other minorities due to the Turkish public and state sensitivities about minorities. He explained to the group that 45 of the Greek Orthodox foundations cannot hold elections due to government interference, that his office was visited by the Ministry of Finance inspectors six times in the last year, and that on a different date his foundation's computers and hard disks were stolen and despite having gone to the police, there has been no action. He also said he has received multiple death threats. ¶7. (SBU) Topuz of the Istanbul Protestant Foundation said he is not optimistic about religious freedom in the coming years in Turkey. The small community,s largely foreign clerics have significant difficulty obtaining visas and work permits, he said. Most of the churches do not have legal status and while some do have association status, by law only foundations can hire clerics. Topuz lamented that foreigners without work permits found working - or volunteering - at churches without foundation statuses are deported. ¶8. (SBU) Vingas, in his role as minority representative on the General Directorate of Foundations' Board, stressed the importance of patience while waiting for positive outcomes from a slow-to-change bureaucracy. He commented on the positive change that has occurred in the year of his tenure, a result of greater coordination with the GOT on the part of the minority foundations. ¶9. (SBU) Comment. None of the participants in the lunch had met one another in any setting before, despite their prominent decision-making roles (past and present) within the world of minority religious communities, and the fact that they all recognized one another,s names. The general inward focus of the minority communities, and myopic unawareness of their shared problems and challenges, could be addressed if they were to form shared committees and work groups. In the past, some groups explained to us, the societal stigma against some groups - such as the Alevis or Armenians - constrained joint efforts. However, as Turkey's society more openly discusses the concerns of its minorities - as evidenced in the media reaction to Ecumenical Patriarch Bartholomew's statements on the topic to "60 Minutes" (Ref A) - distinct religious groups may see a greater return on shared efforts. End Comment. WIENER

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