Identifier
Created
Classification
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10CAIRO147
2010-01-31 15:02:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Cairo
Cable title:
A/S POSNER PRESSES GOE ON POLICE BRUTALITY, NGO
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FOR NEA, NEA/ELA AND DRL/NESCA
E.O. 12958: DECL: 2035/01/31
TAGS: PREL PGOV PHUM KDEM EG
SUBJECT: A/S POSNER PRESSES GOE ON POLICE BRUTALITY, NGO
REGISTRATIONS
REF: CAIRO 47; 09 CAIRO 2164; 09 CAIRO 2064; 09 CAIRO 451
07 CAIRO 3214
CLASSIFIED BY: Margaret Scobey, Ambassador, State; REASON: 1.4(B),
(D)
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FOR NEA, NEA/ELA AND DRL/NESCA
E.O. 12958: DECL: 2035/01/31
TAGS: PREL PGOV PHUM KDEM EG
SUBJECT: A/S POSNER PRESSES GOE ON POLICE BRUTALITY, NGO
REGISTRATIONS
REF: CAIRO 47; 09 CAIRO 2164; 09 CAIRO 2064; 09 CAIRO 451
07 CAIRO 3214
CLASSIFIED BY: Margaret Scobey, Ambassador, State; REASON: 1.4(B),
(D)
1. KEY POINTS
-- (C) In meetings January 12-13, A/S Posner raised the issue of
police brutality and prison conditions with senior GOE officials.
-- (C) Interior Ministry State Security (SSIS) Director Hassan
Abdel Rahman asserted that SSIS has not abused prisoners "in the
past ten years." He claimed that the MOI played no role in the
case of Cairo resident XXXXXXXXXXXX who, according to multiple NGOs, was abused repeatedly by police in January 2009. Rahman claimed there are no problems with prison conditions.
-- (C) MFA Deputy Assistant Minister for Human Rights Wael
Aboulmagd said the GOE takes the issue of police brutality
seriously, and has increased the number of prosecutions against
offices for torture and abuse.
2. (C) Comment: Per ref B, credible human rights lawyers believe
police brutality continues to be a pervasive, daily occurrence in
GOE detention centers, and that SSIS has adapted to increased media
and blogger focus on police brutality by hiding the abuse and
pressuring victims not to bring cases. NGOs assess prison
conditions to be poor, due to overcrowding and lack of medical
care, food, clean water, and proper ventilation. Per ref E,
following a landmark 2007 sentencing of police officers for
assaulting and sodomizing a bus driver, courts have continued to
sentence officers to prison terms for brutality. End comment.
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Police Brutality and Prison Conditions
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3. (C) In a January 12 meeting with Interior Ministry State
Security Director Rahman, A/S Posner asked what measures the GOE
takes to address police brutality and difficult prison conditions,
and what the U.S. could do to help. Rahman said "in the past ten
years" there has been "no abuse of prisoners at all." He
acknowledged there may have been "some violations" against
"terrorists" in prison in the 1970's and 1980's. Posner raised the
case of XXXXXXXXXXXXX who was abused by police in XXXXXXXXXXX according to multiple NGO reports (refs C, D). (Note: The Ambassador raised this case with the Interior Minister in XXXXXXXX, per ref D. End note.) Rahman responded that when citizens do not "get what they want from the police, they become angry." He asserted that XXXXXXXXXXXXhusband is a "criminal," and beat her in the midst of a family dispute. Rahman said the MOI punishes any officer who commits violations. Rahman also said the Interior Ministry treats all prisoners well. More than 1,500 prisoners
pursue university studies, he claimed, and he noted that the
government is focused on prisoners' health and their
rehabilitation.
4. (C) A/S Posner also raised police brutality with MFA Deputy
Assistant Minister for Human Rights Wael Aboulmagd who responded
that the GOE takes the issue seriously. Aboulmagd said that since
2005, the Interior Ministry stopped paying fines for police
officers found to have abused detainees. He noted increased
prosecutions against police officers for torture and abuse.
Aboulmagd said the Interior Ministry is participating in human
rights training through the UN Development Program, and internal
courses. He opined that it would take a "generation of training"
before the police accepted the concept of human rights.
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U.S. Support for Civil Society
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5. (C) Rahman asserted that the U.S. funds NGOs and human rights
organizations dominated by "communists and extremists." He claimed
these "communists" do not care about democracy, and want to weaken
the GOE in response to Egypt's movement away from the Soviet Union
and toward the U.S. in the 1970's. The Ambassador pushed back,
saying that the U.S. does not fund NGOs connected to the Muslim
Brotherhood or extremists. She noted the U.S. funds NGOs to
promote civic education, human rights training and election
monitoring. She urged SSIS to allow increased registration of
NGOs. A/S Posner urged Rahman to allow NGOs to register even if
they are critical of the GOE.
6. (U) A/S Posner cleared this message.
SCOBEY
SIPDIS
DRL FOR A/S POSNER
FOR NEA, NEA/ELA AND DRL/NESCA
E.O. 12958: DECL: 2035/01/31
TAGS: PREL PGOV PHUM KDEM EG
SUBJECT: A/S POSNER PRESSES GOE ON POLICE BRUTALITY, NGO
REGISTRATIONS
REF: CAIRO 47; 09 CAIRO 2164; 09 CAIRO 2064; 09 CAIRO 451
07 CAIRO 3214
CLASSIFIED BY: Margaret Scobey, Ambassador, State; REASON: 1.4(B),
(D)
1. KEY POINTS
-- (C) In meetings January 12-13, A/S Posner raised the issue of
police brutality and prison conditions with senior GOE officials.
-- (C) Interior Ministry State Security (SSIS) Director Hassan
Abdel Rahman asserted that SSIS has not abused prisoners "in the
past ten years." He claimed that the MOI played no role in the
case of Cairo resident XXXXXXXXXXXX who, according to multiple NGOs, was abused repeatedly by police in January 2009. Rahman claimed there are no problems with prison conditions.
-- (C) MFA Deputy Assistant Minister for Human Rights Wael
Aboulmagd said the GOE takes the issue of police brutality
seriously, and has increased the number of prosecutions against
offices for torture and abuse.
2. (C) Comment: Per ref B, credible human rights lawyers believe
police brutality continues to be a pervasive, daily occurrence in
GOE detention centers, and that SSIS has adapted to increased media
and blogger focus on police brutality by hiding the abuse and
pressuring victims not to bring cases. NGOs assess prison
conditions to be poor, due to overcrowding and lack of medical
care, food, clean water, and proper ventilation. Per ref E,
following a landmark 2007 sentencing of police officers for
assaulting and sodomizing a bus driver, courts have continued to
sentence officers to prison terms for brutality. End comment.
-------------- --------------
Police Brutality and Prison Conditions
-------------- --------------
3. (C) In a January 12 meeting with Interior Ministry State
Security Director Rahman, A/S Posner asked what measures the GOE
takes to address police brutality and difficult prison conditions,
and what the U.S. could do to help. Rahman said "in the past ten
years" there has been "no abuse of prisoners at all." He
acknowledged there may have been "some violations" against
"terrorists" in prison in the 1970's and 1980's. Posner raised the
case of XXXXXXXXXXXXX who was abused by police in XXXXXXXXXXX according to multiple NGO reports (refs C, D). (Note: The Ambassador raised this case with the Interior Minister in XXXXXXXX, per ref D. End note.) Rahman responded that when citizens do not "get what they want from the police, they become angry." He asserted that XXXXXXXXXXXXhusband is a "criminal," and beat her in the midst of a family dispute. Rahman said the MOI punishes any officer who commits violations. Rahman also said the Interior Ministry treats all prisoners well. More than 1,500 prisoners
pursue university studies, he claimed, and he noted that the
government is focused on prisoners' health and their
rehabilitation.
4. (C) A/S Posner also raised police brutality with MFA Deputy
Assistant Minister for Human Rights Wael Aboulmagd who responded
that the GOE takes the issue seriously. Aboulmagd said that since
2005, the Interior Ministry stopped paying fines for police
officers found to have abused detainees. He noted increased
prosecutions against police officers for torture and abuse.
Aboulmagd said the Interior Ministry is participating in human
rights training through the UN Development Program, and internal
courses. He opined that it would take a "generation of training"
before the police accepted the concept of human rights.
CAIRO 00000147 002 OF 002
--------------
U.S. Support for Civil Society
--------------
5. (C) Rahman asserted that the U.S. funds NGOs and human rights
organizations dominated by "communists and extremists." He claimed
these "communists" do not care about democracy, and want to weaken
the GOE in response to Egypt's movement away from the Soviet Union
and toward the U.S. in the 1970's. The Ambassador pushed back,
saying that the U.S. does not fund NGOs connected to the Muslim
Brotherhood or extremists. She noted the U.S. funds NGOs to
promote civic education, human rights training and election
monitoring. She urged SSIS to allow increased registration of
NGOs. A/S Posner urged Rahman to allow NGOs to register even if
they are critical of the GOE.
6. (U) A/S Posner cleared this message.
SCOBEY