Identifier
Created
Classification
Origin
09TALLINN381
2009-12-17 12:09:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Tallinn
Cable title:
Parliamentary President on Afghan Commitment, Russian
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 TALLINN 000381
SIPDIS
AMEMBASSY ANKARA PASS TO AMCONSUL ADANA
AMEMBASSY ASTANA PASS TO AMCONSUL ALMATY
AMEMBASSY BERLIN PASS TO AMCONSUL DUSSELDORF
AMEMBASSY BERLIN PASS TO AMCONSUL LEIPZIG
AMEMBASSY BELGRADE PASS TO AMEMBASSY PODGORICA
AMEMBASSY HELSINKI PASS TO AMCONSUL ST PETERSBURG
AMEMBASSY ATHENS PASS TO AMCONSUL THESSALONIKI
AMEMBASSY MOSCOW PASS TO AMCONSUL VLADIVOSTOK
AMEMBASSY MOSCOW PASS TO AMCONSUL YEKATERINBURG
E.O. 12958: DECL: 2019/12/17
TAGS: PREL PGOV ECON EN
SUBJECT: Parliamentary President on Afghan Commitment, Russian
Relations
CLASSIFIED BY: Marc Nordberg, Political/Economic Chief; REASON:
1.4(B),(D)
Classified by Ambassador Michael Polt for reasons 1.4 B and D.
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 TALLINN 000381
SIPDIS
AMEMBASSY ANKARA PASS TO AMCONSUL ADANA
AMEMBASSY ASTANA PASS TO AMCONSUL ALMATY
AMEMBASSY BERLIN PASS TO AMCONSUL DUSSELDORF
AMEMBASSY BERLIN PASS TO AMCONSUL LEIPZIG
AMEMBASSY BELGRADE PASS TO AMEMBASSY PODGORICA
AMEMBASSY HELSINKI PASS TO AMCONSUL ST PETERSBURG
AMEMBASSY ATHENS PASS TO AMCONSUL THESSALONIKI
AMEMBASSY MOSCOW PASS TO AMCONSUL VLADIVOSTOK
AMEMBASSY MOSCOW PASS TO AMCONSUL YEKATERINBURG
E.O. 12958: DECL: 2019/12/17
TAGS: PREL PGOV ECON EN
SUBJECT: Parliamentary President on Afghan Commitment, Russian
Relations
CLASSIFIED BY: Marc Nordberg, Political/Economic Chief; REASON:
1.4(B),(D)
Classified by Ambassador Michael Polt for reasons 1.4 B and D.
1. (C) Summary: In his introductory call on President of the
Parliament Ene Ergma on December 14, Ambassador applauded Estonia's
contribution in Afghanistan, asked for her views on relations with
Russia, and praised Estonia's remarkable economic resilience.
Ergma stressed that she fully understands the importance of the
mission in Afghanistan and that Estonia will continue to do its
part. Relations with Russia are strained, she said, since Russia's
political elite is still not reconciled with "losing" the former
Soviet Republics. Differences in interpreting recent history and
Russian propaganda in the region further exacerbate relations.
Last, Ergma gave credit to the Estonian people for allowing her
government to maintain strong fiscal discipline without public
protest. End summery.
Committed to Afghanistan
2. (SBU) The Ambassador praised Estonia for its contributions in
Afghanistan and expressed condolences for the recent wounding of an
Estonian soldier in an engagement against insurgents in Helmand on
December 12. Ergma replied that it is painful to lose soldiers,
but as a NATO ally Estonia will remain in Afghanistan (note: on
December 9 Parliament approved the extension of the Afghan mission
through December 2010). She stressed that the terrorists active in
Afghanistan are a threat to many countries, and that she
appreciates the United States is in Afghanistan to fight a
necessary war, not for its own gain (Ergma contrasted this
situation with the Russian invasion of Chechnya).
Russia: Like the People, Not the Government
3. (C) Ergma, who lived in Moscow for 20 years, stated that she
liked the Russian people, but that Russia's political elite still
dreams of empire and keenly feels the "loss" of the Baltic States,
Ukraine and Moldova. Among other forms of pressure Russia is using
energy as a means to re-exert control over former Soviet territory.
She worries that the "KGB" operates without any political or civil
checks on its power, and that Estonia and Russia have very
different interpretations of World War II. Ergma conceded that
Russia liberated Estonia, but complained they then forgot to go
home afterwards. It is painful when Russians demand that Estonia
be thankful for this liberation, especially since Ergma's father,
like many other Estonians, was one of many deported to Siberia,
then forced to fight in the Red Army.
4. (C) She further maintained that the Russian government is
building barriers between Estonians and Russians in Estonia through
Kremlin-controlled television (RTR and the First Baltic Channel).
These channels regularly vilify Estonia. That said, Ergma believes
the GOE needs to make stronger efforts to make ethnic Russians feel
part of Estonian society, while knowledge of the Estonian language
has to remain an essential element of integration. The Ambassador
noted that in the U.S., English is our language for historical and
pragmatic reasons, and not because it is mandated by law. Ergma
provided the counter example of the Netherlands, which has a
liberal language policy and as a result now has a large mass of
people that do not speak Dutch and do not fit into society. She
further argued that Russian-speakers in Estonia need to learn
Estonian to find a good job , just as she had to learn Russian to
work in Moscow.
Economics: Thank the Estonian People for Sacrifices
TALLINN 00000381 002 OF 002
5. (SBU) Responding to Ambassador's compliments on the GOE's
extraordinary fiscal discipline, Ergma said the Estonian people
understand that sacrifices are needed to survive and prosper. Even
with the GOE and private business cutting salaries, Estonians are
not protesting. She admitted that the GOE made some mistakes in
the boom years, such as misinterpreting Estonia's real estate
bubble as real growth, but in general the GOE saved money and
managed to preserve key entitlements, such as pensions. Ergma
stated that Estonia needs to work still to retrain the unemployed
and to maintain high educational standards, but that Estonia has
extreme challenges as a small state with a small government budget.
Partly in jest she equated the Estonian state budget with that of
Harvard University (note: in actuality the GOE's 2010 budget us
roughly 8.5 billion USD, compared to Harvard's 3.5 billion USD).
6. (C) Comment: As president of Parliament, Ergma fulfills a
largely functional role enforcing parliamentary rules. She is not
a major power in her party, but she is a typically thoughtful
Estonian interlocutor, very supportive of the U.S., and does
maintain influence both personally and through her respected
parliamentary position.
POLT
SIPDIS
AMEMBASSY ANKARA PASS TO AMCONSUL ADANA
AMEMBASSY ASTANA PASS TO AMCONSUL ALMATY
AMEMBASSY BERLIN PASS TO AMCONSUL DUSSELDORF
AMEMBASSY BERLIN PASS TO AMCONSUL LEIPZIG
AMEMBASSY BELGRADE PASS TO AMEMBASSY PODGORICA
AMEMBASSY HELSINKI PASS TO AMCONSUL ST PETERSBURG
AMEMBASSY ATHENS PASS TO AMCONSUL THESSALONIKI
AMEMBASSY MOSCOW PASS TO AMCONSUL VLADIVOSTOK
AMEMBASSY MOSCOW PASS TO AMCONSUL YEKATERINBURG
E.O. 12958: DECL: 2019/12/17
TAGS: PREL PGOV ECON EN
SUBJECT: Parliamentary President on Afghan Commitment, Russian
Relations
CLASSIFIED BY: Marc Nordberg, Political/Economic Chief; REASON:
1.4(B),(D)
Classified by Ambassador Michael Polt for reasons 1.4 B and D.
1. (C) Summary: In his introductory call on President of the
Parliament Ene Ergma on December 14, Ambassador applauded Estonia's
contribution in Afghanistan, asked for her views on relations with
Russia, and praised Estonia's remarkable economic resilience.
Ergma stressed that she fully understands the importance of the
mission in Afghanistan and that Estonia will continue to do its
part. Relations with Russia are strained, she said, since Russia's
political elite is still not reconciled with "losing" the former
Soviet Republics. Differences in interpreting recent history and
Russian propaganda in the region further exacerbate relations.
Last, Ergma gave credit to the Estonian people for allowing her
government to maintain strong fiscal discipline without public
protest. End summery.
Committed to Afghanistan
2. (SBU) The Ambassador praised Estonia for its contributions in
Afghanistan and expressed condolences for the recent wounding of an
Estonian soldier in an engagement against insurgents in Helmand on
December 12. Ergma replied that it is painful to lose soldiers,
but as a NATO ally Estonia will remain in Afghanistan (note: on
December 9 Parliament approved the extension of the Afghan mission
through December 2010). She stressed that the terrorists active in
Afghanistan are a threat to many countries, and that she
appreciates the United States is in Afghanistan to fight a
necessary war, not for its own gain (Ergma contrasted this
situation with the Russian invasion of Chechnya).
Russia: Like the People, Not the Government
3. (C) Ergma, who lived in Moscow for 20 years, stated that she
liked the Russian people, but that Russia's political elite still
dreams of empire and keenly feels the "loss" of the Baltic States,
Ukraine and Moldova. Among other forms of pressure Russia is using
energy as a means to re-exert control over former Soviet territory.
She worries that the "KGB" operates without any political or civil
checks on its power, and that Estonia and Russia have very
different interpretations of World War II. Ergma conceded that
Russia liberated Estonia, but complained they then forgot to go
home afterwards. It is painful when Russians demand that Estonia
be thankful for this liberation, especially since Ergma's father,
like many other Estonians, was one of many deported to Siberia,
then forced to fight in the Red Army.
4. (C) She further maintained that the Russian government is
building barriers between Estonians and Russians in Estonia through
Kremlin-controlled television (RTR and the First Baltic Channel).
These channels regularly vilify Estonia. That said, Ergma believes
the GOE needs to make stronger efforts to make ethnic Russians feel
part of Estonian society, while knowledge of the Estonian language
has to remain an essential element of integration. The Ambassador
noted that in the U.S., English is our language for historical and
pragmatic reasons, and not because it is mandated by law. Ergma
provided the counter example of the Netherlands, which has a
liberal language policy and as a result now has a large mass of
people that do not speak Dutch and do not fit into society. She
further argued that Russian-speakers in Estonia need to learn
Estonian to find a good job , just as she had to learn Russian to
work in Moscow.
Economics: Thank the Estonian People for Sacrifices
TALLINN 00000381 002 OF 002
5. (SBU) Responding to Ambassador's compliments on the GOE's
extraordinary fiscal discipline, Ergma said the Estonian people
understand that sacrifices are needed to survive and prosper. Even
with the GOE and private business cutting salaries, Estonians are
not protesting. She admitted that the GOE made some mistakes in
the boom years, such as misinterpreting Estonia's real estate
bubble as real growth, but in general the GOE saved money and
managed to preserve key entitlements, such as pensions. Ergma
stated that Estonia needs to work still to retrain the unemployed
and to maintain high educational standards, but that Estonia has
extreme challenges as a small state with a small government budget.
Partly in jest she equated the Estonian state budget with that of
Harvard University (note: in actuality the GOE's 2010 budget us
roughly 8.5 billion USD, compared to Harvard's 3.5 billion USD).
6. (C) Comment: As president of Parliament, Ergma fulfills a
largely functional role enforcing parliamentary rules. She is not
a major power in her party, but she is a typically thoughtful
Estonian interlocutor, very supportive of the U.S., and does
maintain influence both personally and through her respected
parliamentary position.
POLT