FM FALCONI WITH AMBASSADOR ON BILATERAL DIALOGUE,

C O N F I D E N T I A L QUITO 000570 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/09/2019 TAGS: PREL SNAR EAID SENV MARR CVIS EC SUBJECT: FM FALCONI WITH AMBASSADOR ON BILATERAL DIALOGUE, GAS-AND-GO REF: A. STATE 62142 ¶B. STATE 47202 C.... id: 215977 date: 7/9/2009 23:35 refid: 09QUITO570 origin: Embassy Quito classification: CONFIDENTIAL destination: 09QUITO306|09STATE47202|09STATE62142 header: VZCZCXYZ0000 OO RUEHWEB DE RUEHQT #0570/01 1902335 ZNY CCCCC ZZH O 092335Z JUL 09 FM AMEMBASSY QUITO TO RUEHC/SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 0609 INFO RUEHBO/AMEMBASSY BOGOTA 8245 RUEHBR/AMEMBASSY BRASILIA 4213 RUEHCV/AMEMBASSY CARACAS 3627 RUEHLP/AMEMBASSY LA PAZ JUL LIMA 3298 RUEHGL/AMCONSUL GUAYAQUIL 4463 RHMFISS/HQ USSOUTHCOM MIAMI FL RHMFISS/CDR USSOUTHCOM MIAMI FL -------------- header ends -------------- C O N F I D E N T I A L QUITO 000570 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/09/2019 TAGS: PREL SNAR EAID SENV MARR CVIS EC SUBJECT: FM FALCONI WITH AMBASSADOR ON BILATERAL DIALOGUE, GAS-AND-GO REF: A. STATE 62142 ¶B. STATE 47202 ¶C. QUITO 306 Classified By: Ambassador Heather Hodges for Reasons 1.4 (b, d) ¶1. (C) Summary: GOE officials laid out their thinking on the Bilateral Dialogue, including a new, so far poorly defined, security pillar, in a July 8 meeting with the Ambassador. The Ambassador emphasized the USG desire to move forward as soon as possible. She raised U.S. interest in a gas-and-go arrangement to allow U.S. counter-narcotics flights out of Ecuadorian coastal airports, a subject with which the GOE officials appeared unfamiliar. Other subjects included the draft agreements for USG support to specialized police units, the delays in discussing the annual USAID agreement, tax exemptions for FOL vehicles, and visas for recipients of GOE medical assistance. End summary. ¶2. (U) Meeting participants included Foreign Minister Fander Falconi, Coordinating Minister for Internal and External Security Miguel Carvajal, MFA Vice Minister for Foreign Trade and Integration Ramon Espinel, Government and Police Ministry Under Secretary Franco Sanchez, MFA Bilateral Affairs Under Secretary Jorge Orbe, and MFA North America Director General Ambassador Juan Salazar. PolCouns accompanied the Ambassador. ¶3. (C) Falconi described his and Minister Carvajal's June 12 meeting with the Secretary as fruitful and constructive. He highlighted the main topics of discussion, including a letter he had given to the Secretary outlying a proposal for a trade agreement for development. He said immigration issues had also been discussed. Falconi mentioned that the two sides seemed to share the same vision in regard to using the Bilateral Dialogue as a venue to address issues. He noted that his trade proposal had been favorably received and that their Ambassador in Washington had sent subsequent reports of positive reactions to their proposal. Falconi also noted that during the trip he had taken Minister Carvajal to drive by Bethesda/Chevy Case High School, which he attended for three years of high school. NEXT STEPS ON BILATERAL DIALOGUE ¶4. (C) The Ambassador emphasized that the USG wants to move forward on the Bilateral Dialogue and its working groups without losing time. (Note: Falconi did not make himself available to see the Ambassador on this subject until some time after the embassy requested the meeting. End note.) The Ambassador pointed out that officials from the Andean Affairs and Economic Policy and Summit Coordination offices planned to visit Quito this month to prepare for the Bilateral Dialogue. She said the USG also planned to send official(s) for further discussions in August. ¶5. (C) Falconi told the Ambassador that the GOE had held an internal meeting in preparation for the Bilateral Dialogue earlier that day. Under Secretary Orbe said the GOE would like to have four working groups -- security, trade and investment, cooperation and technical assistance, and "human mobility" (formerly called migration affairs) ) to discuss agenda items and how the two sides would move forward on "negotiations" (sic). Orbe suggested that the Bilateral Dialogue plenary meeting be held in mid-September. ¶6. (C) The Ambassador welcomed Orbe's suggestions. She explained that Embassy turnover and gaps would complicate the Embassy's participation in working groups in some areas, saying an October plenary meeting would be more realistic for the USG. The Ambassador asked that the MFA provide proposed dates in late July for the visit of Washington officials. GOE PROPOSES NEW SECURITY PILLAR FOR DIALOGUE ¶7. (C) The Ambassador asked for more information on the security pillar, which would replace the former pillar on promotion of human development and reduction of poverty. Minister Carvajal replied that the GOE concept of security was a broad one, going beyond the traditional subjects. He listed narcotics trafficking, domestic and international criminal bands, money laundering, kidnapping, and UNASUR's Defense Ministers Council. He also included trafficking in persons (because it exposed Ecuadorians to threats),the regional situation (focused on guaranteeing democracy),and climate change in the Andean region (because droughts and floods were threats). ¶8. (C) The Ambassador requested a written explanation of GOE thinking on this pillar, noting that the USG planned an interagency meeting on the Bilateral Dialogue the following week in Washington and that we needed to understand what the GOE had in mind so that the officials who planned to visit Quito could receive appropriate instructions from other offices and agencies. Carvajal agreed to try to provide something in writing. GAS-AND-GO PROPOSAL ¶9. (C) The Ambassador raised USG interest in a gas-and-go agreement, stressing that President Rafael Correa had responded favorably when she brought up the subject with him in January. She said that she had met once with then MFA Under Secretary for Sovereignty Affairs Jaime Barberis on the subject, but that it had been on hold since February (when two Embassy officials were expelled). The Ambassador asked Falconi to authorize the new Under Secretary of Sovereignty Affairs, Claudia Donoso, to resume these discussions with us. ¶10. (C) Surprisingly, Falconi and other GOE officials in the meeting appeared not to be familiar with gas-and-go. The Ambassador explained the concept and cited other countries where we had similar agreements. Of those in the meeting, Minister Carvajal appeared the most skeptical about the idea, asking whether this meant U.S. intelligence officers would be on the flights and whether the flights would be over land as well as water. The Ambassador responded that the crew would not normally be intelligence officers and that the area to be covered was the eastern Pacific ocean, not Ecuadorian territory. She noted that FOL flights had never flown over Ecuador. Carvajal promised to raise the issue with President Correa. The Ambassador said she would provide information in writing on gas-and-go this week. (Embassy is providing the nonpaper in Ref B.) AGREEMENTS ON VETTED UNITS ¶11. (C) Ministry of Government Under Secretary Sanchez raised the agreements under discussion for resuming or continuing USG support for specialized police units. He expressed interest in concluding the agreements as soon as possible so that funds would be available in the new USG fiscal year starting in October. The Ambassador explained that the Embassy had completed translations of the draft agreements and that in our view there were only a few points that needed further discussion. She mentioned handling of equipment the USG provided if the agreement were terminated, protection of information in case of auditing, and slight revisions to provisions governing polygraphing. USAID PROPOSED AGREEMENT AND OTHER ISSUES ¶12. (C) The Ambassador flagged the problems that the Embassy's USAID mission had encountered with the GOE's Agency for International Cooperation (AGECI). USAID provided AGECI on May 5 a draft amendment to its 2007 agreement, which would allow expenditure of FY2009 funds during FY2010. She explained that USAID had sought numerous times to communicate with the AGECI director to discuss the agreement, but without success. PolCouns pointed out that USAID sought not to dictate the text without changes, but rather to begin a dialogue on the subject. (AGECI is part of the GOE's National Planning Secretariat; a similar agency used to be within the MFA.) ¶13. (C) GOE interlocutors in the meeting appeared genuinely distressed at the Ambassador's report. Falconi assured her that the MFA would speak to the AGECI director immediately to facilitate a response. The Ambassador warned that if the USAID funds were not obligated via such an amendment, Washington might remove the funds and use them elsewhere. She noted that USAID used to obligate funds directly through agreements with contractors, but under the Correa administration had worked via agreement with the GOE. Falconi appeared to appreciate the coordination. ¶14. (C) At the close of the meeting, Director General Salazar touched briefly on two other topics. The first was an agreement between the two countries on visa requests by individuals whose medical care in the U.S. would be funded by the GOE. (The Ambassador made clear to Salazar on the way out that the U.S. could not guarantee visa issuance, but could take into account the GOE commitment to pay medical costs.) The second was the status of Embassy and MFA efforts to obtain tax exemptions for vehicles the Forward Operating Location in Manta planned to donate to local charities and GOE entities. The Ambassador described this as 95 percent resolved. COMMENT ¶15. (C) Some of the issues that Carvajal proposed for consideration under the Bilateral Dialogue's new security pillar already figured on the agenda under the previous four pillars, but several other issues did not. Once we get a better description of the new topics that Carvajal suggested under the security pillar, we will have a better idea of whether they would be best managed as part of the Bilateral Dialogue or through other channels. The GOE officials' lack of knowledge about the gas-and-go proposal appeared to be genuine, but was startling. (Note: Correa even mentioned his commitment to the Ambassador on television during his Feb 7 outburst against our ICE employee whom he was expelling.) This illustrates once again Correa's tendency to make decisions without consultation with staff and the poor communication within the government and even ministries. It also demonstrates the GOE's limited ability to track USG priority issues, let alone move the ball forward. 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