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09GENEVA1102
2009-12-02 16:47:00
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Mission Geneva
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START FOLLOW-ON NEGOTIATIONS, GENEVA

Tags:  KACT MARR PARM PREL RS US START 
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S E C R E T GENEVA 001102 

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DEPT FOR T, VCI AND EUR/PRA
DOE FOR NNSA/NA-24
CIA FOR WINPAC
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SECDEF FOR OSD(P)/STRATCAP
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DTRA FOR OP-OS OP-OSA AND DIRECTOR
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DIA FOR LEA

E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/01/2019
TAGS: KACT MARR PARM PREL RS US START
SUBJECT: START FOLLOW-ON NEGOTIATIONS, GENEVA
(SFO-GVA-VII): (U) NOTIFICATIONS WORKING GROUP MEETING,
NOVEMBER 20, 2009

REF: A. GENEVA 01079 (SFO-GVA-VII-023)

B. GENEVA 01084 (SFO-GVA-VII-036)

Classified By: A/S Rose E. Gottemoeller, United States
START Negotiator. Reasons: 1.4(b) and (d).

S E C R E T GENEVA 001102 SIPDIS DEPT FOR T, VCI AND EUR/PRA DOE FOR NNSA/NA-24 CIA FOR WINPAC JCS FOR J5/DDGSA SECDEF FOR OSD(P)/STRATCAP NAVY FOR CNO-N5JA AND DIRSSP AIRFORCE FOR HQ USAF/ASX AND ASXP DTRA FOR OP-OS OP-OSA AND DIRECTOR NSC FOR LOOK DIA FOR LEA E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/01/2019 TAGS: KACT MARR PARM PREL RS US START SUBJECT: START FOLLOW-ON NEGOTIATIONS, GENEVA (SFO-GVA-VII): (U) NOTIFICATIONS WORKING GROUP MEETING, NOVEMBER 20, 2009 REF: A. GENEVA 01079 (SFO-GVA-VII-023) ¶B. GENEVA 01084 (SFO-GVA-VII-036) Classified By: A/S Rose E. Gottemoeller, United States START Negotiator. Reasons: 1.4(b) and (d). ¶1. (U) This is SFO-GVA-VII-044. ¶2. (U) Meeting Date: November 20, 2009 Time: 3:30 p.m. - 4:30 p.m. Place: U.S. Mission, Geneva -------------- SUMMARY -------------- ¶3. (S) During a one-on-one meeting held at the U.S. Mission on November 20, 2009, U.S. Notification Working Group (WG) Chair Mr. Siemon reviewed 39 START Notification Formats that both sides had agreed to delete in the START Follow-on (SFO) treaty. (Begin comment: At the previous two Notification WG meetings--Refs A and B--the Russian side presented their list of Notification Formats to: 1) delete; 2) retain; 3) consolidate under Notification Format #3; 4) reconsider after several differing issues were resolved; and 5) review further. End comment.) Russian WG Chair Col Ryzhkov agreed to the U.S. proposal. Both Siemon and Ryzhkov agreed that further Notification Formats would likely be deleted and consolidated once several political issues such as mobile missiles, continuous monitoring, and telemetry were decided. End Summary. ¶4. (S) SUBJECT SUMMARY: A Good Start: 30 START Notification Formats Removed; -------------- A GOOD START: 39 START NOTIFICATION FORMATS REMOVED -------------- ¶5. (S) Siemon presented the U.S. view on 39 START Notification Formats that Russia had, at two previous Notification WG meetings (Refs A and B),proposed to delete from the SFO treaty. The U.S. side agreed that these 39 Notification Formats would not be necessary in the new treaty. The 39 Notification Formats were as follows: Notification Formats: 13, 14, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 32, 33, 34, 35, 36, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 71, 76, 77, 95, 96, 97, 98, 99, 101, 102, 107, 108, 109, 110, 111, 112, 113, 118, 138, 139, 140 and 141. ¶6. (S) Both sides agreed that removing these Notification Formats was a positive step forward and that more Notification Formats would either be removed or consolidated as the WG and the overall "political process" moved forward. Ryzhkov opined that retaining detailed notifications in the new treaty was critical. Siemon replied that both sides should aim for a simpler and shorter notifications document. ¶7. (S) Siemon offered that the U.S. side disagreed with approximately 10 Notification Formats that Russia suggested removing and that these could be discussed during the next meeting of the WG. He closed by providing Ryzhkov with a nominal plan for the next meeting of the WG, which would likely take place on Wednesday, November 25. ¶8. (S) Documents exchanged: None. ¶9. (S) Participants: U.S. Mr. Siemon Mr. Dwyer Mr. Hopkins (Int) Russia Col Ryzhkov Mr. Smirnov Ms. Komshilova (Int) ¶10. (U) Gottemoeller sends. GRIFFITHS

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