Identifier
Created
Classification
Origin
09BUDAPEST820
2009-11-17 09:56:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Budapest
Cable title:
HUNGARY CHARTS TWO MAP INVITATIONS AT DECEMBER
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C O N F I D E N T I A L BUDAPEST 000820
SIPDIS
DEPARTMENT FOR EUR FO AND EUR/CE JAMIE MOORE. PLEASE PASS
TO JEFF HOVENIER AT THE NSC
E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/15/2019
TAGS: PREL NATO PARM MARR HU
SUBJECT: HUNGARY CHARTS TWO MAP INVITATIONS AT DECEMBER
MINISTERIAL
REF: SECSTATE 116100
Classified By: Political Officer Jon Martinson, reasons 1.4 (b,d)
C O N F I D E N T I A L BUDAPEST 000820
SIPDIS
DEPARTMENT FOR EUR FO AND EUR/CE JAMIE MOORE. PLEASE PASS
TO JEFF HOVENIER AT THE NSC
E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/15/2019
TAGS: PREL NATO PARM MARR HU
SUBJECT: HUNGARY CHARTS TWO MAP INVITATIONS AT DECEMBER
MINISTERIAL
REF: SECSTATE 116100
Classified By: Political Officer Jon Martinson, reasons 1.4 (b,d)
1. (C) POLOFF met with the MFA's newly appointed Security and
Non-proliferation Department Head, Peter Sztaray, and new
NATO Office Director, Eszter Sandorfi, November 16, to
discuss reftel. Sztaray, expressing thanks for the
information concerning the USG position, stated, however,
that Hungary supports MAP for both Montenegro and Bosnia.
Agreeing that Montenegro has "moved on down the road" in
preparations for MAP, Sztaray explained Hungary's view that
if "the Bosnian government has a sufficient level of unity to
be a member of the UN Security Council, then it has
sufficient unity of State to be offered a MAP."
2. (C) Continuing, a disappointed Sztaray stated that Hungary
"expected U.S. support for Bosnia." With a nod to NATO
consensus, Sztaray said that he anticipates that other allies
will support the U.S. position, making it unlikely that
Bosnia will receive a MAP invitation in December. However,
he cautioned that several NATO members may make the argument
that if not MAP for both, then neither country should be
offered a MAP invitation at the upcoming Ministerial.
3. (C) Sztaray expressed Hungarian agreement with the U.S.
position related to Ukraine and Georgia, underscoring that
any effort to link the two countries with MAP should be
avoided, commenting that both countries should be "decoupled"
from the MAP process. However, he added that decoupling may
not be easy, as some NATO members, specifically mentioning
France, hold an opposite view. Sandorfi said that the
December Ministerial communique should contain a more
positive message for Ukraine and Georgia. She offered that a
clearer message on alternative paths to NATO membership could
be more helpful rather than just repeating what has been
stated since the 2008 Bucharest summit.
LEVINE
SIPDIS
DEPARTMENT FOR EUR FO AND EUR/CE JAMIE MOORE. PLEASE PASS
TO JEFF HOVENIER AT THE NSC
E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/15/2019
TAGS: PREL NATO PARM MARR HU
SUBJECT: HUNGARY CHARTS TWO MAP INVITATIONS AT DECEMBER
MINISTERIAL
REF: SECSTATE 116100
Classified By: Political Officer Jon Martinson, reasons 1.4 (b,d)
1. (C) POLOFF met with the MFA's newly appointed Security and
Non-proliferation Department Head, Peter Sztaray, and new
NATO Office Director, Eszter Sandorfi, November 16, to
discuss reftel. Sztaray, expressing thanks for the
information concerning the USG position, stated, however,
that Hungary supports MAP for both Montenegro and Bosnia.
Agreeing that Montenegro has "moved on down the road" in
preparations for MAP, Sztaray explained Hungary's view that
if "the Bosnian government has a sufficient level of unity to
be a member of the UN Security Council, then it has
sufficient unity of State to be offered a MAP."
2. (C) Continuing, a disappointed Sztaray stated that Hungary
"expected U.S. support for Bosnia." With a nod to NATO
consensus, Sztaray said that he anticipates that other allies
will support the U.S. position, making it unlikely that
Bosnia will receive a MAP invitation in December. However,
he cautioned that several NATO members may make the argument
that if not MAP for both, then neither country should be
offered a MAP invitation at the upcoming Ministerial.
3. (C) Sztaray expressed Hungarian agreement with the U.S.
position related to Ukraine and Georgia, underscoring that
any effort to link the two countries with MAP should be
avoided, commenting that both countries should be "decoupled"
from the MAP process. However, he added that decoupling may
not be easy, as some NATO members, specifically mentioning
France, hold an opposite view. Sandorfi said that the
December Ministerial communique should contain a more
positive message for Ukraine and Georgia. She offered that a
clearer message on alternative paths to NATO membership could
be more helpful rather than just repeating what has been
stated since the 2008 Bucharest summit.
LEVINE