Identifier
Created
Classification
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09ASTANA626
2009-04-13 10:03:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Astana
Cable title:
KAZAKHSTAN: AMBASSADOR DELIVERS DEMARCHE ON
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C O N F I D E N T I A L ASTANA 000626
SIPDIS
STATE FOR SCA/CEN, SCA/A, EUR/RPM
E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/13/2019
TAGS: PREL PGOV MARR MOPS NATO AF KZ
SUBJECT: KAZAKHSTAN: AMBASSADOR DELIVERS DEMARCHE ON
AFGHANISTAN CONTRIBUTIONS TO DFM ZHIGALOV
REF: A. STATE 31102
B. ASTANA 0604
Classified By: Ambassador Richard E. Hoagland, Reasons 1.4 (B) and (D)
C O N F I D E N T I A L ASTANA 000626
SIPDIS
STATE FOR SCA/CEN, SCA/A, EUR/RPM
E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/13/2019
TAGS: PREL PGOV MARR MOPS NATO AF KZ
SUBJECT: KAZAKHSTAN: AMBASSADOR DELIVERS DEMARCHE ON
AFGHANISTAN CONTRIBUTIONS TO DFM ZHIGALOV
REF: A. STATE 31102
B. ASTANA 0604
Classified By: Ambassador Richard E. Hoagland, Reasons 1.4 (B) and (D)
1. (C) The Ambassador delivered reftel A demarche on the
conclusions of our Afghanistan-Pakistan strategic review and
requesting specific Kazakhstani contributions to Afghanistan
to Deputy Foreign Minister Konstantin Zhigalov on April 13.
He provided Zhigalov with non-papers on both issues,
explaining that he had given them to Presidential Foreign
Policy Advisor Kairat Sarybay on April 8 (reftel B). The
Ambassador pointed out that our request to Kazakhstan is in
line with previous bilateral conversations. He noted in
particular that in meetings in Washington and Kabul, Deputy
Defense Minister Lt. Gen Bulat Sembinov had said Kazakhstan
might consider deploying a military engineering team to
Afghanistan as a third step in its military engagement,
following deployment of a small number of staff officers to
ISAF headquarters and a medical unit. The Ambassador asked
for an official response to our request, in which we would
welcome any other proposals Kazakhstan might have to assist
Afghanistan.
2. (C) Zhigalov promised Kazakhstan would provide an official
response. He said that he was well aware of the plans to
send Kazakhstani officers to ISAF and deploy a medical unit,
but the proposal to deploy a military engineering team was
"quite a new one" for him; he described it as something
Kazakhstan should seriously think about. Zhigalov added that
the Kazakhstanis are considering initiating a program to
educate Afghans in Kazakhstan. He envisioned the program
providing full multi-year university education, though the
Ministry of Education still has to decide on the details,
including the number of students, and the Kazakhstanis need
to consult with the Afghan government on Afghanistan's
specific needs. He explained that the Afghans might
particularly welcome sending Afghan students to Kazakhstan
because Kazakhstan is a fellow Muslim country and provided
university education to Afghans during the Soviet period.
Zhigalov expected that Kazakhstan would cover the costs of
education and accommodation, but would look to other partners
in Afghanistan to pay for transportation costs.
3. (C) COMMENT: In general, Kazakhstan is quite well
disposed to help in Afghanistan because they know it is in
their interests to do so. That a military engineering unit
was "quite a new one" for DFM Zhigalov does not signify
reluctance on his part. Rather, it's likely that he's simply
not up to date on Deputy Defense Minister Sembinov's
thinking. While our reftel A "ask list" for Kazakhstan
includes a request for agriculture and water experts, their
plan to offer full university education for Afghan students
seems fairly well advanced, and should be considered
seriously. END COMMENT.
HOAGLAND
SIPDIS
STATE FOR SCA/CEN, SCA/A, EUR/RPM
E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/13/2019
TAGS: PREL PGOV MARR MOPS NATO AF KZ
SUBJECT: KAZAKHSTAN: AMBASSADOR DELIVERS DEMARCHE ON
AFGHANISTAN CONTRIBUTIONS TO DFM ZHIGALOV
REF: A. STATE 31102
B. ASTANA 0604
Classified By: Ambassador Richard E. Hoagland, Reasons 1.4 (B) and (D)
1. (C) The Ambassador delivered reftel A demarche on the
conclusions of our Afghanistan-Pakistan strategic review and
requesting specific Kazakhstani contributions to Afghanistan
to Deputy Foreign Minister Konstantin Zhigalov on April 13.
He provided Zhigalov with non-papers on both issues,
explaining that he had given them to Presidential Foreign
Policy Advisor Kairat Sarybay on April 8 (reftel B). The
Ambassador pointed out that our request to Kazakhstan is in
line with previous bilateral conversations. He noted in
particular that in meetings in Washington and Kabul, Deputy
Defense Minister Lt. Gen Bulat Sembinov had said Kazakhstan
might consider deploying a military engineering team to
Afghanistan as a third step in its military engagement,
following deployment of a small number of staff officers to
ISAF headquarters and a medical unit. The Ambassador asked
for an official response to our request, in which we would
welcome any other proposals Kazakhstan might have to assist
Afghanistan.
2. (C) Zhigalov promised Kazakhstan would provide an official
response. He said that he was well aware of the plans to
send Kazakhstani officers to ISAF and deploy a medical unit,
but the proposal to deploy a military engineering team was
"quite a new one" for him; he described it as something
Kazakhstan should seriously think about. Zhigalov added that
the Kazakhstanis are considering initiating a program to
educate Afghans in Kazakhstan. He envisioned the program
providing full multi-year university education, though the
Ministry of Education still has to decide on the details,
including the number of students, and the Kazakhstanis need
to consult with the Afghan government on Afghanistan's
specific needs. He explained that the Afghans might
particularly welcome sending Afghan students to Kazakhstan
because Kazakhstan is a fellow Muslim country and provided
university education to Afghans during the Soviet period.
Zhigalov expected that Kazakhstan would cover the costs of
education and accommodation, but would look to other partners
in Afghanistan to pay for transportation costs.
3. (C) COMMENT: In general, Kazakhstan is quite well
disposed to help in Afghanistan because they know it is in
their interests to do so. That a military engineering unit
was "quite a new one" for DFM Zhigalov does not signify
reluctance on his part. Rather, it's likely that he's simply
not up to date on Deputy Defense Minister Sembinov's
thinking. While our reftel A "ask list" for Kazakhstan
includes a request for agriculture and water experts, their
plan to offer full university education for Afghan students
seems fairly well advanced, and should be considered
seriously. END COMMENT.
HOAGLAND