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09ASTANA2200 | 2009-12-23 02:10:00 | UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY | Embassy Astana |
1. (U) Sensitive but unclassified. Not for public Internet. 2. (SBU) SUMMARY: After briefly noting the government of Kazakhstan's obligatory talking points on the need for a 2010 OSCE summit and a bilateral meeting between Presidents Obama and Nazarbayev during the April Global Nuclear Security Summit, Prime Minister Karim Masimov told Assistant Secretary for South and Central Asian Affairs Robert Blake that 2009 economic growth will hover around zero, but will probably reach 2-3% in 2010. He asserted that worldwide economic difficulties will cause oil prices to fall again in 2010 and continue to limit Kazakhstan's growth. Therefore, he is looking to 2011 for a full recovery and a return of international capital. For long-term growth, he emphasized government investments in diversification, competitiveness, education, and health care. In 2010, the Kazakhstani government also hopes to establish clear rules for its exit from the economy. Masimov also mentioned Kazakhstan's New University, which is slated to open in 2010. END SUMMARY. 3. (SBU) Prime Minister Karim Masimov welcomed Assistant Secretary for South and Central Asian Affairs Robert Blake by reiterating his government's request for the United States to support a 2010 summit of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) and a bilateral meeting between Presidents Obama and Nazarbayev in Washington during the April Global Nuclear Security Summit. CONSTRUCTION, FINANCIAL SECTOR PROBLEMS "MORE OR LESS MANAGED" 4. (SBU) Turning to his clear area of expertise, economics, Masimov told Blake that Kazakhstan's economy from 2000 to 2007 was "overheated," especially in the financial, banking, and construction sectors. He asserted that problems in Kazakhstan's construction and financial sectors "are now more or less managed." According to Masimov, the Kazakhstani government focused on completing more than 300 buildings whose construction had stopped. Connected to problems of financing, he said the government used internal resources to increase banks' liquidity. By mid-2010, he claimed the resolution of construction sector problems will be "fully visible." 5. (SBU) The Kazakhstani government faced difficult decisions at the beginning of 2009, Masimov claimed, because some banks teetered on the verge of bankruptcy. "We had to decide whether to do a Lehman Brothers or a Citibank or some other mechanism," he said. "So we hired a series of different international consultants," including JP Morgan, Credit Suisse, and Goldman Sachs. According to Masimov, this program, which supported four major banks, is nearing completion. He told Blake that two banks, in which the government invested 25% -- "like Bank of America, Citibank" -- are now negotiating to buy back these shares. "Two others [i.e., Alliance and BTA Bank] are more difficult because of alleged massive fraud in the case of BTA. Our 'Madoff case' [i.e., Mukhtar Ablyazov, former CEO of BTA] is in London. We are suing each other. He committed fraud, but is blaming politics. We trust UK justice," Masimov asserted (ref A). He confidently told Blake that Alliance bank would announce the conclusion of its restructuring that evening, and he expressed his opinion that BTA will finish by the end of March. "The full picture in April or May will show that we managed to stabilize the economy and that the financial and construction sectors will be in good shape," he said. SLIGHTLY POSITIVE GROWTH 6. (SBU) Masimov predicted slightly positive growth in GDP for 2009. "Some say that it will be a small minus, some a small plus, but that does not really matter since it is a less than 1% difference. The trend is more important," he argued. In 2009, the Kazakhstani government invested in roads, schools, and hospitals, Masimov boasted, creating 400,000 new jobs and decreasing unemployment to ASTANA 00002200 002.3 OF 003 6.3% from 7%. Although growth in 2010 will reach 2-3%, he argued economic difficulties will continue worldwide and oil prices will again fall. The government is thus budgeting for oil at $50 a barrel. "Diversification, diversification, diversification is especially important. There is much work to be done," he concluded. INTERNATIONAL FINANCING NOT TO RETURN SOON 7. (SBU) In response to Blake's query about the role of financial restructuring, Masimov said that the international financial sector will not regain "its appetite for emerging markets until maybe the end of 2010. We are not counting on it, but it may help." To emphasize his expertise in this area, he mentioned his weekly contact with the major international investment banks. INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE SHORT TERM, EDUCATION FOR THE LONG TERM 8. (SBU) Because Kazakhstan is not fully industrialized, Masimov insisted it needs investment. Specifically citing the World Bank/EBRD-financed highway from China through Kazakhstan to Russia and Europe, he asserted investment creates new opportunities for employment and provision of goods and services by small- and medium-sized enterprises. For the long term, Masimov highlighted the necessity to invest in competitiveness, education, and health care. Because he believes that outsourcing for education and health care will increase in the next ten years, Kazakhstani President Nazarbayev will outline a strategy for Kazakhstan to position itself to provide these services in his February address to the nation. GOVERNMENT ENTRANCE IN ECONOMY TEMPORARY 9. (SBU) A/S Blake highlighted Kazakhstani entrepreneurs' complaints about the concentration of wealth in a small number of holding companies, which crowds out private investment and limits the energy of entrepreneurs (ref B). Masimov responded that the government provided assistance in light of the economic crisis. Masimov emphasized the government's "temporary entrance into the economy," and as part of the government's 2010 program, said it must establish clear rules for its exit from the economy. He further elaborated the effect of the crisis on his personal philosophy, "Before 2007, I was too conservative. I asked why the government should interfere in private-sector dealings. At the end of the day, we now see that the government is always involved. From 1980 to 2008, we had Reagonomics. From 2010, there will be more social responsibility and control. Maybe in 20 years time, the trend will again reverse itself." FUTURE U.S. INVESTMENT -- PROBABLY NO INTEREST IN 2010 10. (SBU) When A/S Blake offered to organize a business delegation to accompany Secretary Clinton when she has the opportunity to travel to Kazakhstan, Masimov highlighted his "pragmatic" opinion about the difficulty to attract U.S. companies in 2010. "2010 will be about building good infrastructure to attract U.S. companies and investment in the future. Strong political will will bring results in two to three years," he asserted. According to Masimov, Kazakhstan's English-language New University, slated to open this summer, is included in these plans. Masimov pointed to ongoing consultations with U.S. universities (including Duke and the University of Pittsburgh) as bolstering the effort to create a "first-class regional center." He said he would provide more information about the university to the Embassy. 11. (SBU) Deputy Chairman Timur Kulibayev of Samryk-Kazyna (Kazakhstan's largest holding company), who joined Blake's December 15 meeting with Foreign Minister Kanat Saudabayev, said Kazakhstan would welcome diverse U.S. investment, specifically in machine-building, petroleum processing petrochemicals, and agriculture. The government is drafting a strategy for broad industrialization by 2020, Kulibayev asserted. The Kazakhstani ASTANA 00002200 003.3 OF 003 government and U.S. Export-Import bank could co-finance U.S. pilot-investment projects, he opined. In response to Kulibayev's suggestion of regular meetings between U.S. and Kazakhstani business leaders, Blake noted that a private-business component could be added to the Annual Bilateral Consultations. Foreign Minister Saudabayev said Kazakhstan's Ambassador to the United States, Erlan Idrissov, will pursue the suggestion. 12. (SBU) COMMENT: Masimov's strong grasp of the big picture and smallest detail, as well as his ability to adapt to changing circumstances, always impresses, and might explain Kazakhstan's relative success in navigating the global economic crisis. As long as Masimov, or someone of his vision and quality, maintains a relatively free hand in economic matters, we believe that the government will extricate itself from the economy. For a country in which a free market arrived less than 20 years ago, this experience of temporary government intervention should strengthen Kazakhstanis' faith in the future of the private sector. END COMMENT. 13. (U) A/S Blake has cleared this cable. HOAGLAND |