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2008-07-22 16:29:00
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Embassy Rome
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FM FRATTINI TO COORDINATE WITH U.S. ON IRAN,

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 ROME 000900 

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/25/2018
TAGS: PREL PGOV NATO ECON IT
SUBJECT: FM FRATTINI TO COORDINATE WITH U.S. ON IRAN,
MIDDLE EAST DURING WASHINGTON VISIT

ROME 00000900 001.2 OF 003


Classified By: Ronald P. Spogli, Ambassador, for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d
).

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 03 ROME 000900 SIPDIS E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/25/2018 TAGS: PREL PGOV NATO ECON IT SUBJECT: FM FRATTINI TO COORDINATE WITH U.S. ON IRAN, MIDDLE EAST DURING WASHINGTON VISIT ROME 00000900 001.2 OF 003 Classified By: Ronald P. Spogli, Ambassador, for reasons 1.4 (b) and (d ). ¶1. (C) Summary. Italian FM Franco Frattini told the Ambassador on July 21 that Italy is prepared to do more to make EU measures against Iran more effective but opposition from Spain and Austria make it unlikely that it will happen during the July GAERC. In a recent phone conversation, Syrian FM Mouallem told Frattini that he is not opposed to direct talks with Israel. Frattini said such talks would not succeed without U.S. support and hoped to discuss this with the Secretary during his trip to Washington on July 29. The GOI was disappointed by the Lebanese government's homecoming given to returning prisoners and said the international community should press Siniora to avoid humiliating Israel during this critical period and to disarm Hizballah. During his trip to Israel, Frattini received an Israeli intelligence briefing on Iran, which he will share with the Secretary. On his recent trip to Russia, Frattini stressed that Russia did not present any security framework to supersede existing structures. Instead Lavrov suggested that the international community find a common definition of security issues (terrorism, territorial integrity, sovereignty) to provide a basis for discussion and/or action. Putin seemed especially concerned about Berlusconi's thoughts on the formation of a consumer cartel that would force a price ceiling on energy suppliers. On the C-17 issue, Frattini told MOD La Russa that for political reasons Italy should participate in the project. La Russa agreed but said, given significant budget cuts, that his military experts felt the project did not have the same priority as other programs. Frattini said Italy would discuss expanding Italy's contributions to NTM-I to include naval training with Iraqi PM Maliki during his visit to Rome on July 25. On the Dal Molin base expansion, Frattini said the project will go forward and the referendum will not have legal effect. On MLAT, he promised his support to push for swift ratification. End Summary. Iran: Making Measures More Effective - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ¶2. (C) Frattini told the Ambassador that he spoke to the Secretary on July 20. She said she would provide details to him on the Iran issue and the possibil
ity of opening an interests section in Tehran during his July 29 visit to Washington. Frattini said Italy wanted the EU to strengthen measures under UNSCR 1803 but didn't think it would happen during the July GAERC. He still wanted to work toward "reinforced implementation" to use existing measures more effectively, but noted that Spain and Austria were still being problematic. Middle East: Italy Sees Room for Optimism - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ¶3. (C) Frattini said he will inform the Secretary of his recent phone conversation with Syrian FM Mouallem who stated he is not opposed to direct talks with Israel. Frattini said it could be a positive development but Italy would want the U.S. to be on board. On Lebanon, Italy was shocked at the reception the Siniora government gave to returned prisoners. He expected this from Hizballah but not from a government that enjoys the support of both the U.S. and Italy. The international community must let the Lebanese government know that it cannot be allowed to humiliate Israel in such a way. The GOL also needs to be pushed to do more to disarm Hizballah. ¶4. (C) Frattini said he got an Israeli intelligence briefing on Iran during his visit to Israel, which he'll share with the Secretary. He added that PA President Abbas was optimistic about peace prospects during his July 11-12 visit to Rome, but the question of East Jerusalem would continue to ROME 00000900 002.2 OF 003 be a problem for the Palestinians and the refugee issue would remain difficult for Israel. Frattini said it would be hard to make progress without movement on both of these issues. Russia Not Proposing New Security Structure - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ¶5. (C) The Ambassador told Frattini that Napolitano's statements on a Russian proposal for a new security agreement were unhelpful. The transatlantic community should work on strengthening existing structures instead. Frattini said Medvedev did not propose a new security structure to Napolitano and the U.S. should not be concerned about his statements. Napolitano stated clearly that NATO would continue to be the foundation of Italian security. Lavrov told Frattini that Russia understood that NATO would not go away. Russia didn't want to supersede any existing structures but was rather looking for a common understanding on key security issues beginning by agreeing to a common definition of key terms, such as terrorism, sovereignty, and territorial integrity. ¶6. (C) On frozen conflicts, Lavrov told Frattini that Russia was not opposed to NATO expansion but wanted Russia's interests preserved in Abkhazia and Ossetia, particularly where Russian citizens were concerned. Frattini said that Italy would propose a ministerial-level conference on the Caucuses region on November 13 and would invite the U.S., EU, Russia, and key EU nations to attend (no mention of NATO). ¶7. (C) Frattini told the Ambassador that Putin talked exclusively about economic interests and seemed "very concerned" about Berlusconi's ideas to create a consumer cartel that would negotiate fixed prices on energy. C-17: Politically Necessary but not a Military Priority - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ¶8. (C) Frattini told the Ambassador that MOD La Russa had asked his advice on the C-17 issue. Frattini said he told La Russa it was politically very important for Italy to remain a part of the project. La Russa said he agreed but his military advisers were telling him it was not a high priority in light of painful budget cuts. Frattini said he would continue to press for Italy's inclusion in the project. Iraq: Italy Invested Wants to Remain a Partner with Next Administration - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ¶9. (C) Frattini said Italy planned public expressions of support for the Iraqi government during PM Maliki's visit on July 25 and was ready to discuss additional security training, including to Iraqi Navy. Frattini said the GOI was interested in what the two U.S. presidential candidates planned to do in Iraq. The Ambassador said both candidates wanted to see a stable Iraq. Dal Molin Base Expansion: Almost There - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ¶10. (C) The Dal Molin base expansion will go forward, according to the FM. The proposed referendum by the city of Vicenza would likely fail since the base enjoys excellent relations with the community and provides tangible economic benefits to the surrounding region. The result of the referendum won't matter anyway, since it would not be legally binding. Extradition and Mutual Legal Assistance Treaties: FM Pledges Support for Ratification - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ROME 00000900 003.2 OF 003 - - - - - - - - - - - - ¶11. (C) The Ambassador said Italy is one of the last countries to ratify the Extradition and Mutual Legal Assistance Treaties. All 27 EU countries need to ratify to have it go into effect. Frattini said he supported the treaties and would work to get them ratified as soon as possible. SPOGLI

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