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08PARIS1225
2008-06-27 16:53:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Paris
Cable title:
NOTIFICATION REGARDING NASA-CNSA CIVIL SPACE
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C O N F I D E N T I A L PARIS 001225
SIPDIS
STATE FOR OES (DAVID TURNER) AND ISN (RICHARD BUENNEKE);
NASA FOR OFFICE OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/24/2018
TAGS: KSCA PARM PREL TPHY TSPA TSPL
SUBJECT: NOTIFICATION REGARDING NASA-CNSA CIVIL SPACE
COOPERATION - ESA AND FRENCH REPLY
REF: SECSTATE 67989
Classified By: ESTH COUNSELOR ROBERT W. DRY FOR REASONS 1.4 A, D, E, G
C O N F I D E N T I A L PARIS 001225
SIPDIS
STATE FOR OES (DAVID TURNER) AND ISN (RICHARD BUENNEKE);
NASA FOR OFFICE OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/24/2018
TAGS: KSCA PARM PREL TPHY TSPA TSPL
SUBJECT: NOTIFICATION REGARDING NASA-CNSA CIVIL SPACE
COOPERATION - ESA AND FRENCH REPLY
REF: SECSTATE 67989
Classified By: ESTH COUNSELOR ROBERT W. DRY FOR REASONS 1.4 A, D, E, G
1. (C) Per instructions reftel, on June 27 at 0900 hrs Paris
local time, NASA Europe Representative Barry presented Mr.
Peter Hulsroj, Director Legal Affairs and External Relations,
European Space Agency, with subject non-paper which Hulsroj
appreciated receiving. He noted that ESA has some experience
in trying to carry out small scale scientific cooperation
with China and suggested that both ESA and NASA might be well
served by an exchange of information on mutual experiences.
He also noted mutual strategic interest in coordinating
"carrots and sticks," and urged NASA to continue the
conversation with ESA on these issues as we move ahead. He
particularly noted his desire that NASA discuss with its
"long-standing" partners, in advance, any potential major
space initiatives with China.
2. (C) Later on June 27, ESTH Counselor, NASA Europe Rep, and
Science Officer presented points contained in non-paper (as
well as the hardcopy) contained reftel to Mr. Martin Briens,
the Director of the Office of Disarmament and Nuclear
Nonproliferation at the French Foreign Ministry. Briens
expressed interest in the topic. Like Hulsroj, Briens
appreciated the information about the proposed, limited
cooperation between NASA and CNSA which he thought "fine,"
and similar, in fact, to that underway between CNES, the
French space agency, and CNSA. Briens also underscored that
for the French, as with the U.S., there remain a number of
unanswered questions regarding the Chinese A-SAT test.
3. (C) Of possible interest, Briens mentioned that as France
assumes the EU presidency next week it plans to take up the
draft Code of Conduct on Space Activities. In that regard,
the French will launch a round of informal consultations, to
include with China and Russia. He indicated that the French
government "is aware of some concerns" regarding this draft
code expressed by the United States.
Please visit Paris' Classified Website at:
http://www.intelink.sgov.gov/wiki/Portal:Fran ce
STAPLETON
SIPDIS
STATE FOR OES (DAVID TURNER) AND ISN (RICHARD BUENNEKE);
NASA FOR OFFICE OF EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/24/2018
TAGS: KSCA PARM PREL TPHY TSPA TSPL
SUBJECT: NOTIFICATION REGARDING NASA-CNSA CIVIL SPACE
COOPERATION - ESA AND FRENCH REPLY
REF: SECSTATE 67989
Classified By: ESTH COUNSELOR ROBERT W. DRY FOR REASONS 1.4 A, D, E, G
1. (C) Per instructions reftel, on June 27 at 0900 hrs Paris
local time, NASA Europe Representative Barry presented Mr.
Peter Hulsroj, Director Legal Affairs and External Relations,
European Space Agency, with subject non-paper which Hulsroj
appreciated receiving. He noted that ESA has some experience
in trying to carry out small scale scientific cooperation
with China and suggested that both ESA and NASA might be well
served by an exchange of information on mutual experiences.
He also noted mutual strategic interest in coordinating
"carrots and sticks," and urged NASA to continue the
conversation with ESA on these issues as we move ahead. He
particularly noted his desire that NASA discuss with its
"long-standing" partners, in advance, any potential major
space initiatives with China.
2. (C) Later on June 27, ESTH Counselor, NASA Europe Rep, and
Science Officer presented points contained in non-paper (as
well as the hardcopy) contained reftel to Mr. Martin Briens,
the Director of the Office of Disarmament and Nuclear
Nonproliferation at the French Foreign Ministry. Briens
expressed interest in the topic. Like Hulsroj, Briens
appreciated the information about the proposed, limited
cooperation between NASA and CNSA which he thought "fine,"
and similar, in fact, to that underway between CNES, the
French space agency, and CNSA. Briens also underscored that
for the French, as with the U.S., there remain a number of
unanswered questions regarding the Chinese A-SAT test.
3. (C) Of possible interest, Briens mentioned that as France
assumes the EU presidency next week it plans to take up the
draft Code of Conduct on Space Activities. In that regard,
the French will launch a round of informal consultations, to
include with China and Russia. He indicated that the French
government "is aware of some concerns" regarding this draft
code expressed by the United States.
Please visit Paris' Classified Website at:
http://www.intelink.sgov.gov/wiki/Portal:Fran ce
STAPLETON