Identifier
Created
Classification
Origin
08MOSCOW1817
2008-06-25 13:03:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Moscow
Cable title:
RUSSIA CONCERNED WITH UNSCR 1267 DELISTING OF
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C O N F I D E N T I A L MOSCOW 001817
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/25/2018
TAGS: PGOV PREL PTER KTFN UNSC AF RS
SUBJECT: RUSSIA CONCERNED WITH UNSCR 1267 DELISTING OF
TALIBAN
Classified By: Acting Political Counselor Robert Patterson for reasons
1.4 (b/d).
C O N F I D E N T I A L MOSCOW 001817
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/25/2018
TAGS: PGOV PREL PTER KTFN UNSC AF RS
SUBJECT: RUSSIA CONCERNED WITH UNSCR 1267 DELISTING OF
TALIBAN
Classified By: Acting Political Counselor Robert Patterson for reasons
1.4 (b/d).
1. (C) MFA Department of International Organizations Director
Gennadiy Gatilov told IO DAS Brian Hook on June 19 that
Russia was concerned with the process of reconciling Taliban
with the Afghan government and would continue to approach
1267 delisting cautiously. He explained that the GOR did not
want individuals removed from the 1267 list without "serious
grounds" for doing so and required guarantees from the
countries requesting delisting that these people would not
return to terrorism. Gatilov said the GOR did not disagree
with delisting per se, but moved slowly on each delisting
request to ensure there would be "no mistakes." When Hook
asked why the GOR was willing to accept reconciliation in
other countries, such as Iraq, but not in Afghanistan,
Gatilov responded that Russia had a "good understanding" of
the situation in Afghanistan.
2. (C) Gatilov dismissed the suggestion that the Russian
Ambassador in Kabul was particularly skeptical of delisting,
joking that perhaps the Ambassador "just knows better."
Gatilov resisted Hook's suggestion that the Russian
Ambassador meet several individuals that have reconciled with
the Afghan government and are proposed for delisting,
explaining that the GOR relied on its Embassy to report on
specific delisting requests but final decisions were made by
"competent authorities" in Moscow.
3. (C) Gatilov and Hook agreed on the necessity of listing
narcotraffickers whose activities financed terrorists in
Afghanistan, although Hook explained that without the
prospect of eventual delisting there was little incentive for
them to change their behavior. Hook stressed the need to
delist individuals, since keeping them on the list meant a
"life sentence" that created problems with several European
countries that were concerned about a lack of due process and
resisted new listings. Gatilov appeared unconvinced by this
argument, but agreed to work on a case-by-case basis on
delisting to see if progress could be made.
RUSSELL
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/25/2018
TAGS: PGOV PREL PTER KTFN UNSC AF RS
SUBJECT: RUSSIA CONCERNED WITH UNSCR 1267 DELISTING OF
TALIBAN
Classified By: Acting Political Counselor Robert Patterson for reasons
1.4 (b/d).
1. (C) MFA Department of International Organizations Director
Gennadiy Gatilov told IO DAS Brian Hook on June 19 that
Russia was concerned with the process of reconciling Taliban
with the Afghan government and would continue to approach
1267 delisting cautiously. He explained that the GOR did not
want individuals removed from the 1267 list without "serious
grounds" for doing so and required guarantees from the
countries requesting delisting that these people would not
return to terrorism. Gatilov said the GOR did not disagree
with delisting per se, but moved slowly on each delisting
request to ensure there would be "no mistakes." When Hook
asked why the GOR was willing to accept reconciliation in
other countries, such as Iraq, but not in Afghanistan,
Gatilov responded that Russia had a "good understanding" of
the situation in Afghanistan.
2. (C) Gatilov dismissed the suggestion that the Russian
Ambassador in Kabul was particularly skeptical of delisting,
joking that perhaps the Ambassador "just knows better."
Gatilov resisted Hook's suggestion that the Russian
Ambassador meet several individuals that have reconciled with
the Afghan government and are proposed for delisting,
explaining that the GOR relied on its Embassy to report on
specific delisting requests but final decisions were made by
"competent authorities" in Moscow.
3. (C) Gatilov and Hook agreed on the necessity of listing
narcotraffickers whose activities financed terrorists in
Afghanistan, although Hook explained that without the
prospect of eventual delisting there was little incentive for
them to change their behavior. Hook stressed the need to
delist individuals, since keeping them on the list meant a
"life sentence" that created problems with several European
countries that were concerned about a lack of due process and
resisted new listings. Gatilov appeared unconvinced by this
argument, but agreed to work on a case-by-case basis on
delisting to see if progress could be made.
RUSSELL