Identifier
Created
Classification
Origin
08MONTREAL48
2008-02-22 19:52:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Consulate Montreal
Cable title:
QUEBEC LIBERALS: THE PQ AND KOSOVO AND FEDERAL
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/21/2033
TAGS: PREL KVIR YI EU CA
SUBJECT: QUEBEC LIBERALS: THE PQ AND KOSOVO AND FEDERAL
FINANCES
REF: OTTAWA 251
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Classified By: Consul General Mary Marshall, reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
SUMMARY
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/21/2033
TAGS: PREL KVIR YI EU CA
SUBJECT: QUEBEC LIBERALS: THE PQ AND KOSOVO AND FEDERAL
FINANCES
REF: OTTAWA 251
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Classified By: Consul General Mary Marshall, reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
SUMMARY
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1. (C) Canada is weighing the effect recognizing Kosovo
independence will have on Party Quebecois's (PQ) dormant
separatist agenda, Quebec Liberal Party (PLQ) Regional
Coordinator Patrick Gilles informed Econ-Poloff February 20
in Montreal. He added that the government's concern was
based on precedent, namely, the PQ's exploitation of East
Timorese and Palestinian independence to re-ignite local
discourse. Also, Quebec benefits financially from the
federal government,s "fear" of the PQ,s agenda, thus
providing the province another incentive for keeping the
issue alive. Finally, Gilles expressed the belief that the
PQ had been encouraged by the quick global acceptance of
Kosovo independence. END SUMMARY.
GOC Weighs Effect of Kosovo on Quebec
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2. (C) The Canadian Government is weighing the effect its own
recognition of Kosovo,s independence would have on Party
Quebecois's (PQ) dormant separatist agenda, according to
Quebec Liberal Party (PLQ) Regional Coordinator Patrick
Gilles on February 20 in Montreal. He added that the
government,s concern was based on precedent. Previously,
the PQ had used the successful bid for independence by East
Timor and the ongoing efforts by the Palestinian Authority to
mobilize the PQ agenda of Quebec's eventual secession from
Canada. (INSERT JOSEPH FACAL?)
Separatism Dormant
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3. (C) Gilles expressed the belief that the question of
separatism remains ever-present in Quebec society. The
existence of the PQ itself -- a party whose raison d'etre, to
achieve Quebec sovereignty, is the only ideological principle
separating it from a near-identical agenda with the PLQ --
was in itself evidence of the ongoing cause, he said. In his
view, the only reason discussion had shifted from "secession"
to "identity" was because of who was in power. If the PQ
were in control, Gilles asserted, the "secession" vocabulary
would re-enter public discourse on provincial affairs.
(Comment: Recent polls indicate PQ ascendancy is highly
unlikely given Premier Charest,s approval rating of over 50
%. End comment.)
GOC Fear of PQ Benefits Quebec Budget
--------------
4. (C) All PQ policies, Gilles said, economic or otherwise,
were intended to lead to secession -- whether or not it was
likely and whether or not the public discussed it. Echoing
the PLQ,s perspective, Gilles admitted that Quebec benefited
financially from the federal government,s fear of the PQ,s
agenda, and therefore, although the Provincial Liberals were
federalists, it looked to the Bloc Quebecois to represent its
(and Quebec's) interests in Ottawa.
5. (C) As an aside, Gilles noted that the PQ,s ideological
control over the distribution of federal and provincial funds
was evident by its disproportionate slant towards developing
language and cultural institutions. He said the PLQ gained
much of its local support from discontent over the resulting
heavy loss to provincial infrastructure and healthcare
investment.
PQ Encouraged By International Response to Kosovo
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6. (C) Gilles commented that the PQ was watching the quick
global acceptance of Kosovo,s independence and was
encouraged by it, adding that the PQ's rationale for
independence was also buoyed by the fact that, unlike Kosovo
or East Timor, Quebec enjoys a growing global economic
presence. Also, Quebec could avoid the violent precursors to
Kosovo and East Timor independence, he said, because the
Quebecois were pacifists who could separate from and coexist
with Canada peacefully.
MONTREAL 00000048 002.2 OF 002
Comment:
--------------
7. (C) The Quebec Liberal Party is currently on solid ground,
financially and politically, despite the role the Party
Quebecois tries to play as the guardian of the province,s
cultural identity. Gilles, stance that secessionist
sentiment remains alive and well in Quebec rings true with
many Montrealers who view themselves as an island of
federalism in Quebec. Canada,s wariness over how the Party
Quebecois could exploit recognition of Kosovo,s independence
has some merit in light of the PQ,s dual-motivation
(ideological and financial) for keeping the issue alive.
8. (C) Owing to the nuanced, complex political environment in
Quebec as a whole, post will continue to seek out other
voices on this issue.
MARSHALL
SIPDIS
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/21/2033
TAGS: PREL KVIR YI EU CA
SUBJECT: QUEBEC LIBERALS: THE PQ AND KOSOVO AND FEDERAL
FINANCES
REF: OTTAWA 251
MONTREAL 00000048 001.2 OF 002
Classified By: Consul General Mary Marshall, reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
SUMMARY
--------------
1. (C) Canada is weighing the effect recognizing Kosovo
independence will have on Party Quebecois's (PQ) dormant
separatist agenda, Quebec Liberal Party (PLQ) Regional
Coordinator Patrick Gilles informed Econ-Poloff February 20
in Montreal. He added that the government's concern was
based on precedent, namely, the PQ's exploitation of East
Timorese and Palestinian independence to re-ignite local
discourse. Also, Quebec benefits financially from the
federal government,s "fear" of the PQ,s agenda, thus
providing the province another incentive for keeping the
issue alive. Finally, Gilles expressed the belief that the
PQ had been encouraged by the quick global acceptance of
Kosovo independence. END SUMMARY.
GOC Weighs Effect of Kosovo on Quebec
--------------
2. (C) The Canadian Government is weighing the effect its own
recognition of Kosovo,s independence would have on Party
Quebecois's (PQ) dormant separatist agenda, according to
Quebec Liberal Party (PLQ) Regional Coordinator Patrick
Gilles on February 20 in Montreal. He added that the
government,s concern was based on precedent. Previously,
the PQ had used the successful bid for independence by East
Timor and the ongoing efforts by the Palestinian Authority to
mobilize the PQ agenda of Quebec's eventual secession from
Canada. (INSERT JOSEPH FACAL?)
Separatism Dormant
--------------
3. (C) Gilles expressed the belief that the question of
separatism remains ever-present in Quebec society. The
existence of the PQ itself -- a party whose raison d'etre, to
achieve Quebec sovereignty, is the only ideological principle
separating it from a near-identical agenda with the PLQ --
was in itself evidence of the ongoing cause, he said. In his
view, the only reason discussion had shifted from "secession"
to "identity" was because of who was in power. If the PQ
were in control, Gilles asserted, the "secession" vocabulary
would re-enter public discourse on provincial affairs.
(Comment: Recent polls indicate PQ ascendancy is highly
unlikely given Premier Charest,s approval rating of over 50
%. End comment.)
GOC Fear of PQ Benefits Quebec Budget
--------------
4. (C) All PQ policies, Gilles said, economic or otherwise,
were intended to lead to secession -- whether or not it was
likely and whether or not the public discussed it. Echoing
the PLQ,s perspective, Gilles admitted that Quebec benefited
financially from the federal government,s fear of the PQ,s
agenda, and therefore, although the Provincial Liberals were
federalists, it looked to the Bloc Quebecois to represent its
(and Quebec's) interests in Ottawa.
5. (C) As an aside, Gilles noted that the PQ,s ideological
control over the distribution of federal and provincial funds
was evident by its disproportionate slant towards developing
language and cultural institutions. He said the PLQ gained
much of its local support from discontent over the resulting
heavy loss to provincial infrastructure and healthcare
investment.
PQ Encouraged By International Response to Kosovo
-------------- --------------
6. (C) Gilles commented that the PQ was watching the quick
global acceptance of Kosovo,s independence and was
encouraged by it, adding that the PQ's rationale for
independence was also buoyed by the fact that, unlike Kosovo
or East Timor, Quebec enjoys a growing global economic
presence. Also, Quebec could avoid the violent precursors to
Kosovo and East Timor independence, he said, because the
Quebecois were pacifists who could separate from and coexist
with Canada peacefully.
MONTREAL 00000048 002.2 OF 002
Comment:
--------------
7. (C) The Quebec Liberal Party is currently on solid ground,
financially and politically, despite the role the Party
Quebecois tries to play as the guardian of the province,s
cultural identity. Gilles, stance that secessionist
sentiment remains alive and well in Quebec rings true with
many Montrealers who view themselves as an island of
federalism in Quebec. Canada,s wariness over how the Party
Quebecois could exploit recognition of Kosovo,s independence
has some merit in light of the PQ,s dual-motivation
(ideological and financial) for keeping the issue alive.
8. (C) Owing to the nuanced, complex political environment in
Quebec as a whole, post will continue to seek out other
voices on this issue.
MARSHALL