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08LONDON1338
2008-05-13 16:28:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy London
Cable title:  

(C) UK RESPONSE TO DEMARCHES ON GERMAN OBSTINACY

Tags:  PARM PREL MOPS PGOV NATO GM UK 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L LONDON 001338 

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/07/2018
TAGS: PARM PREL MOPS PGOV NATO GM UK
SUBJECT: (C) UK RESPONSE TO DEMARCHES ON GERMAN OBSTINACY
AND NATO INTEROPERABILITY CONCERNS IN OSLO PROCESS

REF: A. STATE 48124

B. STATE 45302

Classified By: Political Counselor Richard Mills for reasons 1.4 b and
d

C O N F I D E N T I A L LONDON 001338

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/07/2018
TAGS: PARM PREL MOPS PGOV NATO GM UK
SUBJECT: (C) UK RESPONSE TO DEMARCHES ON GERMAN OBSTINACY
AND NATO INTEROPERABILITY CONCERNS IN OSLO PROCESS

REF: A. STATE 48124

B. STATE 45302

Classified By: Political Counselor Richard Mills for reasons 1.4 b and
d


1. (C) In response to refs a and b, Andrew Ford, Head of
the International Security and Arms Control Security Group at
the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO),reiterated HMG's
position that the USG's unwillingness to participate in the
Oslo process has been an impediment to a successful
agreement. Nonetheless, Ford told Poloffs that HMG agrees
with the USG position that the current draft text contains
language that may negatively impact NATO operations.

2. (C) HMG has several concerns about the Oslo draft
language: What the final definitions of "banned" and
"not-banned" will be in the text; the possible impact on the
legal liability of individual soldiers, and whether text in
the agreement will impact interoperability. Specifically
with regard to definitions, HMG is concerned that German
sensor-based munitions will be put under the "not-banned"
category while UK munitions (although Ford acknowledged HMG
has also bought the German technology) will be defined under
the "banned" category. In addition, HMG is concerned that no
individual military service members face legal jeopardy on
the basis of provisions in the Oslo agreement. Regarding
interoperability, HMG believes maintaining interoperability
is paramount, and agrees with the USG that if the Oslo
agreement is signed as currently drafted, interoperability
will be significantly impacted.

3. (C) On the question of pressing Germany and other allies
to revise the text, Ford said HMG was in regular discussions
with France and Germany on this issue and the need for
revisions. HMG wants to "be in good company" if it
ultimately decides not to sign that agreement, Ford said, as
the Brown Government is under enormous domestic political
pressure from anti-war and human rights groups to support an
agreement.

4. (C) Although a MOD representative was unable to attend
Ford's meeting with Poloffs, Ford said that he and Colonel
Julian Wofford of MOD closely cooperated on this issue within
HMG, and both were in close consultation with Simon
Shercliff, who has responsibility for the cluster munitions
issue at the UK Embassy in Washington.
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