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07NAIROBI5401
2007-01-02 10:22:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Nairobi
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SOMALIA DISCUSSIONS WITH TFG FOREIGN MINISTER HURRE

Tags:  PGOV PREL PTER ASEC MOPS SO ET KE 
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TAGS: PGOV PREL PTER ASEC MOPS SO ET KE
SUBJECT: SOMALIA DISCUSSIONS WITH TFG FOREIGN MINISTER HURRE

Classified By: Ambassador Ranneberger for reasons 1.4 (b,d).

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DEPT FOR AF/E, AF/RSA, AND A/S FRAZER

E.O. 12958: DECL: 01/02/2017
TAGS: PGOV PREL PTER ASEC MOPS SO ET KE
SUBJECT: SOMALIA DISCUSSIONS WITH TFG FOREIGN MINISTER HURRE

Classified By: Ambassador Ranneberger for reasons 1.4 (b,d).


1. (C) As the Somalia crisis has unfolded, TFG Foreign
Minister Hurre, who has been in Nairobi throughout, has been
a useful source of information and insights into TFG actions.
While he does not have much political clout within the TFG,
he is in close contact with Yusuf and Gedi and reliably
passages messages. He is also usefully frank.


2. (C) During a December 30 discussion with the Ambassador,
Hurre insisted that, after some initial stumbling, Yusuf and
Gedi have both gotten onto the right message on the need for
dialogue with all segments of Somalia. He correctly pointed
out that the way in which the TFG proceeds to set up the
local administration for Somalia will demonstrate whether the
governing process will be inclusive. That, in turn, will be
key to maintaining security. Hurre discussed the governing
plan that the TFG Parliament adopted in April, 2006. It
provides for creation of a governing structure for the 18
regions and 92 districts of Somalia. The plan calls for
mini-reconciliation conferences to be held in each district.
The conferences will select (not elect) their local
government. There will then be a district-level
reconciliation conference to select the district government.
The TFG will facilitate the holding of these reconciliation
conferences. The conferences are supposed to use the TFG
Charter 4.5 clan-sharing formula as their guideline in
choosing officials. This approach has already been carried
out in the Bay regions, Hurre said. He added that the
holding of these conferences, once sufficient security has
been established, will require appropriate resources and
support. He appealed for U.S. assistance.


3. (C) Hurre was frank in discussing PM Gedi,s limitations.
Hurre said that there are two problems with Gedi: he is new
to politics and he has his own agenda to maintain himself in
power. Hurre recognized that most observers see Gedi as a
block to achieve real reconciliation. He has no credibility
with his own Hawiye (Habr Gedir) clan, and selection of a new
broadly-accepted Prime Minister will be important to help
achieve national reconciliation. Nevertheless, Hurre said,
the situation is too fluid and uncertain now to replace Gedi.
Hurre said that Gedi is likely to survive as PM for at least
several more months, but would eventually be replaced.


4. (C) Hurre talked about Yusuf,s commitment to dialogue,
but was quick to point out the tremendous challenges in
achieving this. The important Ayr sub-clan of the Hawiye has
a history of opportunitistism, Hurre claimed, and helped
serve as the militia of Aideed (the father who is not Ayr but
Sa'ad). (Separately, we were told that in a meeting with Ayr
clan leaders, Yusuf emotionally asked why he should deal with
them since they had killed his great grandfather.) Yet
another glimpse into the difficulties of organizing dialogue
was provided by Hurre when he pointed out that the head of
the ad hoc civil society/business committee formed in
Mogadishu in recent days, a businessman named Dr. Mohammed
Olussow, had a falling out with Yusuf over Olussow,s
previous role as governor of the TFG central bank.


5. (C) While noting the very bad blood between Gedi and TFG
Parliament Speaker Hassan, Hurre said it is nevertheless
important to try to get Hassan to return to Somalia (he has
refused to go back while Ethiopian forces are there because,
he says, it precludes unfettered deliberations by the
Parliament). Hurre urged us to reach out to Arab countries
to try to persuade Hassan to resume his participation in the
TFG.


6. (C) Hurre said that the TFG declared martial law so that
it could better control the movements of warlords. He made a
distinction between warlords like Dheere and Hirale, who
fought with the TFG and who need to have prominent roles, and
others like Qanyare and Qeybdid, who must be constrained.
(Dheere, it should be remembered, vacated his seat in
Parliament so that Gedi could assume it and then become Prime
Minister.)


7. (C) Hurre said that Kenya has consistently been providing
close support for the TFG. Foreign Minister Tuju was
supposed to travel to Baidoa with money for the TFG, but had
to delay his trip given that the Kenyan treasury is closed
for the holidays.


8. (U) Like Yusuf and Gedi, Hurre said that U.S. support and
influence will be the most essential ingredient in helping to
bring about an inclusive national government structure and
long-term security.

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