Identifier
Created
Classification
Origin
07MOSCOW2693
2007-06-06 14:31:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Moscow
Cable title:
RUSSIA SUPPORTS CLUSTER MUNITIONS DISCUSSION IN
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C O N F I D E N T I A L MOSCOW 002693
SIPDIS
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/06/2017
TAGS: MOPS NATO PARM PREL CH PK RS
SUBJECT: RUSSIA SUPPORTS CLUSTER MUNITIONS DISCUSSION IN
CONVENTION ON CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS BUT STILL UNDECIDED ON
NEGOTIATING MANDATE
REF: STATE 73160
Classified By: Minister-Counselor for Political Affairs
Alice G. Wells. Reasons 1.4 (B/D).
C O N F I D E N T I A L MOSCOW 002693
SIPDIS
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/06/2017
TAGS: MOPS NATO PARM PREL CH PK RS
SUBJECT: RUSSIA SUPPORTS CLUSTER MUNITIONS DISCUSSION IN
CONVENTION ON CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS BUT STILL UNDECIDED ON
NEGOTIATING MANDATE
REF: STATE 73160
Classified By: Minister-Counselor for Political Affairs
Alice G. Wells. Reasons 1.4 (B/D).
1. (C) Andrey Malov, Counselor in the Multilateral
Disarmament Section of the Foreign Ministry's Department for
Disarmament and Security Affairs, told us June 5 that Russia
shared the US view that discussion of cluster munitions (CM)
should remain in the Convention on Conventional Weapons
(CCW). He described the Oslo process as "counterproductive,"
which could undermine our joint efforts in the CCW. Malov
added that Russia believed there was no justification to term
CM as "illegitimate" weapons but acknowledged that how such
weapons were used merited further discussion.
2. (C) According to Malov, Russia's view differed from that
of the US in only one respect -- Moscow thought it would not
be useful to condemn the Oslo process publicly. Russia's
approach was to work within the CCW to build consensus on the
efficacy of CM, relying on expert military opinion to do so,
but ultimately leaving it to states parties to determine on
an individual basis whether to use or ban CM by their own
forces.
3. (C) Although Moscow preferred to keep discussion of CM
within the CCW, Malov said the GOR had not yet decided its
position on the negotiating mandate. Much would depend on
the outcome of the Government Experts meeting later this
month, especially whether a basis for negotiations emerged.
He pointed out, for example, that a common definition of CM
did not exist. There must be a reasonable understanding of
the issues on which to structure negotiations, he added. In
this respect, Malov asked about the status of a promised US
food-for-thought paper, which he said would help determine
Russia's approach to negotiations for the November meeting of
states parties. Looking ahead, Malov stressed that Russia
would not be able to accept legally binding restrictions on
the use of CM, including constraints on technical
characteristics of individual weapons or targeting
limitations, but could consider adoption of measures to
minimize CM's potential impact upon innocent civilians.
4. (SBU) Malov welcomed the opportunity to meet bilaterally
with US counterparts prior to or on the margins of the
Government Experts meeting, as well as multilaterally, if
necessary, with other major CM users.
RUSSELL
SIPDIS
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 06/06/2017
TAGS: MOPS NATO PARM PREL CH PK RS
SUBJECT: RUSSIA SUPPORTS CLUSTER MUNITIONS DISCUSSION IN
CONVENTION ON CONVENTIONAL WEAPONS BUT STILL UNDECIDED ON
NEGOTIATING MANDATE
REF: STATE 73160
Classified By: Minister-Counselor for Political Affairs
Alice G. Wells. Reasons 1.4 (B/D).
1. (C) Andrey Malov, Counselor in the Multilateral
Disarmament Section of the Foreign Ministry's Department for
Disarmament and Security Affairs, told us June 5 that Russia
shared the US view that discussion of cluster munitions (CM)
should remain in the Convention on Conventional Weapons
(CCW). He described the Oslo process as "counterproductive,"
which could undermine our joint efforts in the CCW. Malov
added that Russia believed there was no justification to term
CM as "illegitimate" weapons but acknowledged that how such
weapons were used merited further discussion.
2. (C) According to Malov, Russia's view differed from that
of the US in only one respect -- Moscow thought it would not
be useful to condemn the Oslo process publicly. Russia's
approach was to work within the CCW to build consensus on the
efficacy of CM, relying on expert military opinion to do so,
but ultimately leaving it to states parties to determine on
an individual basis whether to use or ban CM by their own
forces.
3. (C) Although Moscow preferred to keep discussion of CM
within the CCW, Malov said the GOR had not yet decided its
position on the negotiating mandate. Much would depend on
the outcome of the Government Experts meeting later this
month, especially whether a basis for negotiations emerged.
He pointed out, for example, that a common definition of CM
did not exist. There must be a reasonable understanding of
the issues on which to structure negotiations, he added. In
this respect, Malov asked about the status of a promised US
food-for-thought paper, which he said would help determine
Russia's approach to negotiations for the November meeting of
states parties. Looking ahead, Malov stressed that Russia
would not be able to accept legally binding restrictions on
the use of CM, including constraints on technical
characteristics of individual weapons or targeting
limitations, but could consider adoption of measures to
minimize CM's potential impact upon innocent civilians.
4. (SBU) Malov welcomed the opportunity to meet bilaterally
with US counterparts prior to or on the margins of the
Government Experts meeting, as well as multilaterally, if
necessary, with other major CM users.
RUSSELL