Identifier
Created
Classification
Origin
06BUENOSAIRES677
2006-03-22 18:35:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Buenos Aires
Cable title:
CONVERSATION WITH CARLOS ZANNINI
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C O N F I D E N T I A L BUENOS AIRES 000677
SIPDIS
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/23/2016
TAGS: PREL PGOV ECON PTER AR
SUBJECT: CONVERSATION WITH CARLOS ZANNINI
REF: A. 05 BUENOS AIRES 141
B. BUENOS AIRES 625
Classified By: CDA Hugo Llorens for Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
C O N F I D E N T I A L BUENOS AIRES 000677
SIPDIS
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/23/2016
TAGS: PREL PGOV ECON PTER AR
SUBJECT: CONVERSATION WITH CARLOS ZANNINI
REF: A. 05 BUENOS AIRES 141
B. BUENOS AIRES 625
Classified By: CDA Hugo Llorens for Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
1. (C) Summary: DCM, accompanied by PolCouns, met on March
20 with Carlos Zannini, the Secretary for Legal and Technical
Affairs in the Casa Rosada. This was our first face to face
meeting with Zannini since last November's Summit of the
Americas. Zannini is widely considered to be the
intellectual force within President Nestor Kirchner's inner
circle (see Reftel A for biographic information). With the
departure of heavyweights such as former Economy Minister
Roberto Lavagna and Foreign Minister Rafael Bielsa and the
recent resignation of Santa Cruz governor Sergio Acevedo,
Zannini is probably second only to Planning Minister Julio De
Vido in shaping political and economic strategy within the
government. End Summary.
2. (C) Zannini opened the conversation with a defense of
government economic policy. He pointed to the reductions in
unemployment and poverty rates and the increase in the
investment rate to 26 percent of GDP as vindication of the
GoA's policies. Asked about inflation concerns and what he
considered were tolerable levels of inflation, Zannini
responded the government's goal was to keep the inflation
rate to 10 percent. He defended the use of price controls
and the recent decision to ban the export of beef products
for 180 days as legitimate and effective measures to control
inflation. He justified these measures by claiming that
markets didn't work freely in Argentina and that ""cartels""
in, for instance, the meat industry manipulated supply and
demand to affect prices. The DCM noted that while price
controls may well reduce sector prices in the short term,
continued prudent fiscal and monetary policies were still
required to prevent a sustained inflation spillover as money
supply increased.
3. (C) Turning to politics, Zannini claimed the abrupt
resignation (Reftel B) of Santa Cruz governor Acevedo had
come as a ""complete surprise"" to the Casa Rosada. He
acknowledged that Acevedo's ""style"" of handling difficult
issues was perhaps not what Kirchner would have preferred and
that mistakes had clearly been made in the labor dispute in
Las Heras during which a policeman was killed. But he denied
accusations that Kirchner had forced the resignation of his
former vice governor and confidant and even expressed a
certain amount of disgust that Acevedo had not given the Casa
Rosada advance notice of his intentions. Comment: The
timing of Acevedo's resignation may well have taken the Casa
Rosada by surprise. But the open and well-documented
interference in provincial affairs by Kirchner insiders such
as De Vido and Alicia Kirchner, particularly in the
appropriation of public works monies, had clearly put Acevedo
in an untenable position. End Comment.
4. (C) Moving to presidential politics, Zannini claimed
Kirchner was still undecided about his intentions for 2007.
He said Kirchner was very much aware that there were ""no
popular two-term ex-presidents in Argentina"" and that he was
more concerned with ensuring that the political agenda he had
begun was continued beyond 2007 than he was in seeking
reelection. He said Kirchner was willing to ""walk away"" in
2007 if he felt that was the best way to preserve his legacy
and policies. That said, Zannini said Kirchner would easily
win reelection should he decide to run and acknowledged there
was a certain amount of political advantage to be gained from
delaying any official announcement.
5. (C) Finally, the DCM took the opportunity to seek
Zannini's support in pushing for legislation in the Argentine
Congress to combat money laundering and terrorism financing.
The legislation, which is required for the implementation of
the Inter-American Convention Against Terrorism and the UN
Convention on the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism,
has been stalled in the Congress since last year. Zannini,
who was well versed on the subject, expressed his support for
the measures and his confidence that the appropriate
legislation would be passed and enacted this year.
6. (C) Comment: With the resignations of Cabinet
heavyweights such as former Economy Minister Lavagna and
Foreign Minister Bielsa who were both willing to disagree
with Kirchner, Zannini has become the principal intellectual
force in the President's shrinking circle of close advisors.
In terms of overall power to influence both economic and
political policy, Zannini currently is probably second to
none. End Comment.
7. (U) Reftels available at
http://www.state.sgov.gov/p/wha/buenosaires.< /a>
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SIPDIS
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/23/2016
TAGS: PREL PGOV ECON PTER AR
SUBJECT: CONVERSATION WITH CARLOS ZANNINI
REF: A. 05 BUENOS AIRES 141
B. BUENOS AIRES 625
Classified By: CDA Hugo Llorens for Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).
1. (C) Summary: DCM, accompanied by PolCouns, met on March
20 with Carlos Zannini, the Secretary for Legal and Technical
Affairs in the Casa Rosada. This was our first face to face
meeting with Zannini since last November's Summit of the
Americas. Zannini is widely considered to be the
intellectual force within President Nestor Kirchner's inner
circle (see Reftel A for biographic information). With the
departure of heavyweights such as former Economy Minister
Roberto Lavagna and Foreign Minister Rafael Bielsa and the
recent resignation of Santa Cruz governor Sergio Acevedo,
Zannini is probably second only to Planning Minister Julio De
Vido in shaping political and economic strategy within the
government. End Summary.
2. (C) Zannini opened the conversation with a defense of
government economic policy. He pointed to the reductions in
unemployment and poverty rates and the increase in the
investment rate to 26 percent of GDP as vindication of the
GoA's policies. Asked about inflation concerns and what he
considered were tolerable levels of inflation, Zannini
responded the government's goal was to keep the inflation
rate to 10 percent. He defended the use of price controls
and the recent decision to ban the export of beef products
for 180 days as legitimate and effective measures to control
inflation. He justified these measures by claiming that
markets didn't work freely in Argentina and that ""cartels""
in, for instance, the meat industry manipulated supply and
demand to affect prices. The DCM noted that while price
controls may well reduce sector prices in the short term,
continued prudent fiscal and monetary policies were still
required to prevent a sustained inflation spillover as money
supply increased.
3. (C) Turning to politics, Zannini claimed the abrupt
resignation (Reftel B) of Santa Cruz governor Acevedo had
come as a ""complete surprise"" to the Casa Rosada. He
acknowledged that Acevedo's ""style"" of handling difficult
issues was perhaps not what Kirchner would have preferred and
that mistakes had clearly been made in the labor dispute in
Las Heras during which a policeman was killed. But he denied
accusations that Kirchner had forced the resignation of his
former vice governor and confidant and even expressed a
certain amount of disgust that Acevedo had not given the Casa
Rosada advance notice of his intentions. Comment: The
timing of Acevedo's resignation may well have taken the Casa
Rosada by surprise. But the open and well-documented
interference in provincial affairs by Kirchner insiders such
as De Vido and Alicia Kirchner, particularly in the
appropriation of public works monies, had clearly put Acevedo
in an untenable position. End Comment.
4. (C) Moving to presidential politics, Zannini claimed
Kirchner was still undecided about his intentions for 2007.
He said Kirchner was very much aware that there were ""no
popular two-term ex-presidents in Argentina"" and that he was
more concerned with ensuring that the political agenda he had
begun was continued beyond 2007 than he was in seeking
reelection. He said Kirchner was willing to ""walk away"" in
2007 if he felt that was the best way to preserve his legacy
and policies. That said, Zannini said Kirchner would easily
win reelection should he decide to run and acknowledged there
was a certain amount of political advantage to be gained from
delaying any official announcement.
5. (C) Finally, the DCM took the opportunity to seek
Zannini's support in pushing for legislation in the Argentine
Congress to combat money laundering and terrorism financing.
The legislation, which is required for the implementation of
the Inter-American Convention Against Terrorism and the UN
Convention on the Suppression of the Financing of Terrorism,
has been stalled in the Congress since last year. Zannini,
who was well versed on the subject, expressed his support for
the measures and his confidence that the appropriate
legislation would be passed and enacted this year.
6. (C) Comment: With the resignations of Cabinet
heavyweights such as former Economy Minister Lavagna and
Foreign Minister Bielsa who were both willing to disagree
with Kirchner, Zannini has become the principal intellectual
force in the President's shrinking circle of close advisors.
In terms of overall power to influence both economic and
political policy, Zannini currently is probably second to
none. End Comment.
7. (U) Reftels available at
http://www.state.sgov.gov/p/wha/buenosaires.< /a>
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