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06BAGHDAD421
2006-02-11 14:46:00
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Embassy Baghdad
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(U) PROMINENT KURDISH POLITICIAN MAHMUD OTHMAN
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SUBJECT: (U) PROMINENT KURDISH POLITICIAN MAHMUD OTHMAN
SAYS NONE OF THE PRIME MINISTER CANDIDATES ARE "FIT TO
LEAD"
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Classified By: POLITICAL COUNSELOR Robert Ford for reasons
1.4 (B) and (D)
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SUBJECT: (U) PROMINENT KURDISH POLITICIAN MAHMUD OTHMAN
SAYS NONE OF THE PRIME MINISTER CANDIDATES ARE "FIT TO
LEAD"
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Classified By: POLITICAL COUNSELOR Robert Ford for reasons
1.4 (B) and (D)
1. (S) Summary: In a February 8 meeting, outspoken
Kurdish negotiator Dr. Mahmud Othman bitterly
criticized the Prime Minister candidates as unfit to
lead and claimed that the Shia Islamist Coalition's
delay naming its prime minister candidate had made
Iraq look foolish. Othman urged the U.S. government
to increase the pressure on the Shia Coalition to
begin serious negotiations. He proclaimed that
Fadhila's Nadim al-Jabiri would be the best choice,
although SCIRI's Adil Abd al-Mahdi would be more
capable. According to Othman, during working level
meetings on government formation with the Shia
Coalition on February 7, the Shia delegation had
informed the Kurds that there were five non-
negotiable issues for the Shia: (1) excluding former
Prime Minister Ayad Allawi from participating in the
new government, (2) de-Ba'athification, (3)
counterterrorism, (4) preventing any changes to the
Constitution, and (5) federalism for the south.
Othman also brought up the problems of terrorism and
corruption in Iraq, which he claimed both the U.S.
and the Iraqi Government had inadequately addressed.
PolOff pushed back on Othman's recent interview on
the U.S presence attracting terrorists to Iraq -
Othman claimed the paper had twisted his words - and
urged that Othman be more careful in the future.
End Summary.
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(U) "They're All Unfit!"
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2. (C) In a February 8 meeting, Dr. Mahmud Othman, a
member of the Kurdish government negotiation team,
stated that none of the prime minister candidates
were fit to lead Iraq. He angrily claimed that the
Shia Coalition had made Iraq a laughingstock in
front of the world. The government formation
negotiations, he asserted, could have started fifty
days ago. "The people are suffering from lack of
security and services, and the leadership only goes
from party invitation to party invitation - how are
any of them fit to lead?" he asked. The Shia are
unwilling to make the difficult decisions, he said,
and therefore refuse to select their Prime Minister
candidate. Othman urged the U.S. government to
increase the pressure on the Shia Coalition. The
Shia street is likely to revolt soon if progress is
not made, he predicted.
3. (C) Othman proclaimed that Fadhila's Nadim al-
Jabiri would be the best choice, although SCIRI's
Adil Abd al-Mahdi would be more capable. Abd al-
Mahdi's ties to Hakim make him very dangerous,
Othman opined. Current Prime Minister Ibrahim
Ja'afari is problematic for many Iraqis, especially
the Kurds. The Kurds had had too many
disappointments with Ja'afari's leadership, he
stated. Al-Jabiri, on the other hand, is non-
sectarian, free from Iranian ties, and has an open
point of view. Unfortunately, he is too weak and
would be too dependent on others to lead
effectively.
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(U) Government Formation Negotiations
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4. (C) According to Othman, during working level
meetings on government formation with the Shia
Coalition on February 7, the Shia delegation had
informed the Kurds that there were five non-
negotiable issues for the Shia: excluding former
Prime Minister Ayad Allawi from participating in the
new government, de-Ba'athification, strong measures
against terrorism, preventing any changes to the
Constitution, and federalism for the South. (Othman
wryly noted that the Shia defined any who disagreed
with them as "terrorists.") Those who did not agree
with the Shia Coalition's position on these five
issues would not be allowed in the cabinet, Othman
told us. (Comment: Senior KDP official Rowsch
Shaways on February 9 confirmed to us that the Shia
had raised these issues with the Kurds on February
7. See septel. End Comment.)
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5. (C) There will also be difficulty with the Shia
over ministries, said Othman. The Shia delegation
claimed during the talks on February 7 that the
Ministry of Interior position belonged to the Shia,
and they would not allow a Sunni Arab or a non-
partisan person to have it. The Shia are too
vengeful, lamented Othman. After the No-Fly Zone
was negotiated in 1991, Othman continued, the Kurds
forgave the two Iraqi divisions who surrendered to
the Kurds and sent them home with honor. The Shia
will not show similar mercy, he said.
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(U) Terrorism and Corruption - Iraq's twin evils
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6. (C) PolOff then confronted Othman about his
interview with the London-based Arabic newspaper
Asharq al-Awsat on February 7, in which he accused
the U.S. Government of encouraging terrorists to
come to Iraq to fight the U.S. Othman immediately
denied saying this, and claimed the paper
misrepresented his position. He explained that
under Saddam Hussein Iraq used to fear only state-
sponsored terrorism. While Iraqis were grateful for
liberation from Hussein, the increasingly
complicated social and political landscape in Iraq
now included several different groups of terrorists
with varying agendas. Some view themselves as
"freedom fighters," some object to the current Iraqi
Government, and yet others are committed only to
fighting the Americans wherever they can. PolOff
suggested that he explain his comments more fully in
press interviews to avoid this confusion in the
future.
7. (C) The problem of corruption is also rampant,
said Othman. Unfortunately, there was some
corruption during the CPA administration, and
definitely the three Iraqi administrations - the
Governing Council, the Allawi government, and the
Ja'afari government - suffered from widespread
corruption, he alleged. Corruption is as bad for
Iraq as terrorism, Othman said. Both the U.S.
Government and the Iraqi Government have
inadequately assessed these situations, Othman said,
and the Iraqi people have suffered as a result.
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(U) Comment
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8. (C) Othman is a longtime Kurdish political figure
who is more respected in the community for his past
association with Mulla Mustafa Barzani (current
Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) leader Masud
Barzani's father) than his current political
influence. He has, however, been named to the
Kurdish negotiating team on government formation
talks, and is known and trusted to some extent by
both the KDP and the Talabani-led Patriotic Union of
Kurdistan (PUK). Othman is the nominal independent;
he formed his own party, the Kurdistan National
Struggle Organization, in the late 1970s. He, like
Presidency Council Chief of Staff and Talabani aide
Kamran Karadaghi, has the advantage of being an
insider while retaining some veneer of independence
from the two main parties.
KHALILZAD
SIPDIS
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C O R R E C T E D C O P Y (CLASSIFICATION TO SECRET)
E.O. 12958: DECL: 02/11/2016
TAGS: PGOV IZ
SUBJECT: (U) PROMINENT KURDISH POLITICIAN MAHMUD OTHMAN
SAYS NONE OF THE PRIME MINISTER CANDIDATES ARE "FIT TO
LEAD"
BAGHDAD 00000421 001.2 OF 002
Classified By: POLITICAL COUNSELOR Robert Ford for reasons
1.4 (B) and (D)
1. (S) Summary: In a February 8 meeting, outspoken
Kurdish negotiator Dr. Mahmud Othman bitterly
criticized the Prime Minister candidates as unfit to
lead and claimed that the Shia Islamist Coalition's
delay naming its prime minister candidate had made
Iraq look foolish. Othman urged the U.S. government
to increase the pressure on the Shia Coalition to
begin serious negotiations. He proclaimed that
Fadhila's Nadim al-Jabiri would be the best choice,
although SCIRI's Adil Abd al-Mahdi would be more
capable. According to Othman, during working level
meetings on government formation with the Shia
Coalition on February 7, the Shia delegation had
informed the Kurds that there were five non-
negotiable issues for the Shia: (1) excluding former
Prime Minister Ayad Allawi from participating in the
new government, (2) de-Ba'athification, (3)
counterterrorism, (4) preventing any changes to the
Constitution, and (5) federalism for the south.
Othman also brought up the problems of terrorism and
corruption in Iraq, which he claimed both the U.S.
and the Iraqi Government had inadequately addressed.
PolOff pushed back on Othman's recent interview on
the U.S presence attracting terrorists to Iraq -
Othman claimed the paper had twisted his words - and
urged that Othman be more careful in the future.
End Summary.
--------------
(U) "They're All Unfit!"
--------------
2. (C) In a February 8 meeting, Dr. Mahmud Othman, a
member of the Kurdish government negotiation team,
stated that none of the prime minister candidates
were fit to lead Iraq. He angrily claimed that the
Shia Coalition had made Iraq a laughingstock in
front of the world. The government formation
negotiations, he asserted, could have started fifty
days ago. "The people are suffering from lack of
security and services, and the leadership only goes
from party invitation to party invitation - how are
any of them fit to lead?" he asked. The Shia are
unwilling to make the difficult decisions, he said,
and therefore refuse to select their Prime Minister
candidate. Othman urged the U.S. government to
increase the pressure on the Shia Coalition. The
Shia street is likely to revolt soon if progress is
not made, he predicted.
3. (C) Othman proclaimed that Fadhila's Nadim al-
Jabiri would be the best choice, although SCIRI's
Adil Abd al-Mahdi would be more capable. Abd al-
Mahdi's ties to Hakim make him very dangerous,
Othman opined. Current Prime Minister Ibrahim
Ja'afari is problematic for many Iraqis, especially
the Kurds. The Kurds had had too many
disappointments with Ja'afari's leadership, he
stated. Al-Jabiri, on the other hand, is non-
sectarian, free from Iranian ties, and has an open
point of view. Unfortunately, he is too weak and
would be too dependent on others to lead
effectively.
--------------
(U) Government Formation Negotiations
--------------
4. (C) According to Othman, during working level
meetings on government formation with the Shia
Coalition on February 7, the Shia delegation had
informed the Kurds that there were five non-
negotiable issues for the Shia: excluding former
Prime Minister Ayad Allawi from participating in the
new government, de-Ba'athification, strong measures
against terrorism, preventing any changes to the
Constitution, and federalism for the South. (Othman
wryly noted that the Shia defined any who disagreed
with them as "terrorists.") Those who did not agree
with the Shia Coalition's position on these five
issues would not be allowed in the cabinet, Othman
told us. (Comment: Senior KDP official Rowsch
Shaways on February 9 confirmed to us that the Shia
had raised these issues with the Kurds on February
7. See septel. End Comment.)
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5. (C) There will also be difficulty with the Shia
over ministries, said Othman. The Shia delegation
claimed during the talks on February 7 that the
Ministry of Interior position belonged to the Shia,
and they would not allow a Sunni Arab or a non-
partisan person to have it. The Shia are too
vengeful, lamented Othman. After the No-Fly Zone
was negotiated in 1991, Othman continued, the Kurds
forgave the two Iraqi divisions who surrendered to
the Kurds and sent them home with honor. The Shia
will not show similar mercy, he said.
-------------- ---
(U) Terrorism and Corruption - Iraq's twin evils
-------------- ---
6. (C) PolOff then confronted Othman about his
interview with the London-based Arabic newspaper
Asharq al-Awsat on February 7, in which he accused
the U.S. Government of encouraging terrorists to
come to Iraq to fight the U.S. Othman immediately
denied saying this, and claimed the paper
misrepresented his position. He explained that
under Saddam Hussein Iraq used to fear only state-
sponsored terrorism. While Iraqis were grateful for
liberation from Hussein, the increasingly
complicated social and political landscape in Iraq
now included several different groups of terrorists
with varying agendas. Some view themselves as
"freedom fighters," some object to the current Iraqi
Government, and yet others are committed only to
fighting the Americans wherever they can. PolOff
suggested that he explain his comments more fully in
press interviews to avoid this confusion in the
future.
7. (C) The problem of corruption is also rampant,
said Othman. Unfortunately, there was some
corruption during the CPA administration, and
definitely the three Iraqi administrations - the
Governing Council, the Allawi government, and the
Ja'afari government - suffered from widespread
corruption, he alleged. Corruption is as bad for
Iraq as terrorism, Othman said. Both the U.S.
Government and the Iraqi Government have
inadequately assessed these situations, Othman said,
and the Iraqi people have suffered as a result.
--------------
(U) Comment
--------------
8. (C) Othman is a longtime Kurdish political figure
who is more respected in the community for his past
association with Mulla Mustafa Barzani (current
Kurdistan Democratic Party (KDP) leader Masud
Barzani's father) than his current political
influence. He has, however, been named to the
Kurdish negotiating team on government formation
talks, and is known and trusted to some extent by
both the KDP and the Talabani-led Patriotic Union of
Kurdistan (PUK). Othman is the nominal independent;
he formed his own party, the Kurdistan National
Struggle Organization, in the late 1970s. He, like
Presidency Council Chief of Staff and Talabani aide
Kamran Karadaghi, has the advantage of being an
insider while retaining some veneer of independence
from the two main parties.
KHALILZAD