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05TELAVIV5137 | 2005-08-19 11:05:00 | SECRET | Embassy Tel Aviv |
This record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available. |
S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 02 TEL AVIV 005137 |
1. (S) Israeli Defense Ministry Political Security Director Amos Gilad confirmed to visiting NEA A/S Welch and Ambassador Kurtzer August 16 that Egypt and Israel had reached a general agreement on the deployment of 750 Egyptian Border Guards along the Egypt-Gaza border. Israeli DefMin Mofaz is expected to present the draft agreement to the Israeli cabinet for approval next week. Though not legally required, PM Sharon has elected to present it to the Knesset for approval as well. Gilad said that, as a result of the negotiations on the agreement with the Egyptians over the last 15 months, relations between the two countries have improved somewhat. END SUMMARY. ============================================= ======= UPDATE ON AGREEMENT TO DEPLOY EGYPTIAN BORDER GUARDS ============================================= ======= 2. (S) Gilad updated A/S Welch, Ambassador Kurtzer and General Ward on the agreement reached by the GOI and Egyptian Government to deploy 750 Egyptian Border Guards along the Egypt-Gaza border. The discussion on the deployment of Egyptian Border Guards lasted 15 months. Gilad clarified that negotiations were difficult and lengthy. 3. (S) Gilad said the Egyptians also wanted to make the agreement very vague. According to Gilad, every time agreement was reached on a particular set of issues, the Egyptians would walk it back at their next meeting. Gilad said discussing details took a long time. The agreement that has emerged is a "protocol" that meets approval with Israel's intelligence services and the IDF, and which will be presented to the Knesset for approval. Gilad said that the Israeli Attorney General advised PM Sharon that there was no need to bring the agreement before the Knesset, but that PM Sharon insists that it happen in accordance with a deal he made with MK Steinitz. He expects DefMin Mofaz to present the agreement to the Cabinet next week. After the Cabinet approves, it can be presented to the Knesset. Gilad said the Egyptian Border Guards are ready to deploy along the Gaza-Egypt border, but would not deploy during Israel's Gaza disengagement and until Knesset approval of the agreement. ============================================= ======== SIDE-LETTER ON WEAPONS TO BE TURNED OVER TO EGYPTIANS ============================================= ======== 4. (S) Gilad said he talked with the Egyptians about 46 advisers that the Egyptians will send to the Palestinian Authority, including their mission, names, and the equipment they will supply to the Palestinians. Gilad handed a list of the approved equipment over to General Ward, who characterized it as a good account. 5. (S) Gilad said the Israelis had asked Egypt for a side letter of assurance that military equipment would not be allowed into Gaza without coordination with Israel. This is needed to satisfy Knesset objections. Gilad said he will deliver a draft of the side letter to the Egyptians for their review as soon as possible, and hopes he will receive an answer by Thursday, August 18. 6. (S) A/S Welch explained that if the Israeli side wants Egyptian assurances regarding the provision of lethal equipment to Gaza, the language must be drawn up in such a way that the Egyptians cannot feel that they will be held responsible for extraterritorial commercial deals (e.g., by third-party brokers supplying the Palestinians from other countries). It would be unreasonable to expect the Egyptians to accept responsibility for brokers they cannot control. Gilad took the point. ============================================= ======== NEGOTIATIONS HAVE HELPED RELATIONS WITH THE EGYPTIANS ============================================= ======== 7. (S) Gilad suggested that as a result of negotiations over the Border Guards agreement, relations with the Egyptians have improved to the point of being "very excellent." Gilad said Israel's relations with Suleiman and the Egyptian Army, which "in the past have been so poor," have developed "in a significant way." He thought the communication channel that had developed would continue: "Sometimes, we talk to them five times a day." He recounted as a positive example a situation in which the Egyptians stopped terrorist rocket attacks into Israel based on a request from the Israeli side. In Gilad's view, talks with Egyptian Field Marshal Tantawi and Suleiman have had value. He indicated that Israel may do more to improve relations between the Egyptian and Israeli armies. 8. (S) Ambassador Kurtzer encouraged maintaining the channel with the Egyptians, observing that concrete achievements can add up if both sides agree to stay away from thornier, symbolic issues. A/S Welch suggested that if Tantawi feels that Israel genuinely wants to help him, it will pay off. 9. (S) Gilad noted that GOI assessments of the Egyptian military look at Egypt's capabilities, not intentions, and rely on intelligence sources due to what he described as an absence of relations with Egypt: "Nobody in our IDF knows Egypt." Gilad wondered aloud if it might be possible for the U.S. and Israel to exchange information on Egypt. A/S Welch suggested Israel need not worry about Egyptian military capabilities as (a) Egypt spends around two percent of its GDP on defense, low by regional standards; (b) the Egyptian army is not mobile; and (c) less than one-third of Egypt's military aid from the U.S. goes towards acquiring new military equipment, and that value is declining due to inflation and other commitments. Gilad took the points, but expressed concern about the future of Egypt and President Mubarak. He said, "It looks like Mubarak might end his career. His son will not succeed him, and Omar Suleiman will not serve as his deputy." ============================================= ============== GILAD: EGYPTIANS MORE CONCERNED ABOUT TERRORISM THAN DAHLAN ============================================= ============== 10. (S) Gilad observed that in the last set of Israel-Egypt negotiations, Gaza-West Bank passage improvement was not mentioned. He said the Egyptians do not like Palestinian Authority Civic Affairs Minister Mohammed Dahlan because he claims he does not want Israelis in Rafah. Gilad also explained that the Egyptians were caught off guard and shocked by the recent terror attacks in Taba and Sharm El Sheik. A/S Welch replied that terrorism in Sinai is a "big problem" for Egypt. The Egyptians, he said, have been focused on the Nile delta and upper Egypt. The recent terror attacks against Egypt might work to Israel's advantage in the long run because they could encourage cooperation. Gilad agreed and hoped that developments might encourage Egypt to see the need to conclude the agreement on the provision of weapons to Gaza the week of August 21 or shortly thereafter. 11. (U) This cable was cleared by Assistant Secretary David Welch. ********************************************* ******************** Visit Embassy Tel Aviv's Classified Website: http://www.state.sgov.gov/p/nea/telaviv You can also access this site through the State Department's Classified SIPRNET website. ********************************************* ******************** KURTZER |