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05SANSALVADOR2875
2005-10-20 22:57:00
UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY
Embassy San Salvador
Cable title:
SECRETARY GUTIERREZ' BILATERAL MEETING WITH PRESIDENT SACA
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UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 03 SAN SALVADOR 002875
SIPDIS
SENSITIVE
DEPT PASS USTR
E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: ETRD OVIP PREL EPET ECIN ES
SUBJECT: SECRETARY GUTIERREZ' BILATERAL MEETING WITH PRESIDENT SACA
REF: A. SAN SALVADOR 2818 B. SAN SALVADOR 2787 C. SAN SALVADOR 108
UNCLAS SECTION 01 OF 03 SAN SALVADOR 002875
SIPDIS
SENSITIVE
DEPT PASS USTR
E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: ETRD OVIP PREL EPET ECIN ES
SUBJECT: SECRETARY GUTIERREZ' BILATERAL MEETING WITH PRESIDENT SACA
REF: A. SAN SALVADOR 2818 B. SAN SALVADOR 2787 C. SAN SALVADOR 108
1. (SBU) Summary: Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez began his October 20-21 visit to El Salvador with a friendly but businesslike meeting with President Elias Antonio ("Tony") Saca. Saca reaffirmed El Salvador's commitment to CAFTA and to its relationship with the United States, thanking President Bush for his attention to El Salvador. He also stressed the importance of the CAFTA-DR agreement in pushing back against growing populism in the region, in particular that led by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. Saca commented on problems and progress in Central American integration and stability. Ambassador Rene Leon, in the meeting, renewed El Salvador's request to bring a U.S. Customs presence to El Salvador to improve its competitiveness in the region. End Summary.
2. (U) Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez began his October 20-21 visit to El Salvador with an hour-long meeting with President Elias Antonio ("Tony") Saca. Participants were:
USG
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Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez
Ambassador H. Douglas Barclay
Claire Buchan, Secretary's Chief of Staff
Israel Hernandez, A/S and Director General, Commercial Service
Walter Bastian, DAS Western Hemisphere
Regional FCS Director Daniel Thompson
Economic Counselor Jessica Webster (notetaker)
GOES
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President Elias Antonio (Tony) Saca
Foreign Minister Francisco Lainez
Minister of Economy Yolanda de Gavidia
Ambassador to the U.S. Rene Leon
Private Secretary Elmer Charlaix
Technical Secretary Eduardo Zablah
Vice Minister of Economy Eduardo Ayala Grimaldi
Vice Minister of Economy Blanca Imelda Jaco de Magana
3. (U) The meeting was friendly but businesslike, covering CAFTA and regional political issues. Both the Secretary and President Saca emphasized the value of the U.S.-Salvadoran relationship. Secretary Gutierrez thanked the President for El Salvador's firm and steady support of the U.S., in public and in private, citing in particular El Salvador's participation in Iraq and Saca's leadership in securing Salvadoran and U.S. Congressional approval of CAFTA. President Saca thanked Secretary Gutierrez for his own work to get CAFTA approved.
CAFTA
4. (U) President Saca reiterated El Salvador's commitment to the CAFTA-DR agreement. He expressed his confidence that CAFTA could be implemented in January 2006 and told the Secretary that El Salvador had already made most of the changes necessary to comply with the terms of the accord, noting that the GOES expected to secure legislative approval for reforms to its intellectual property rights law in November. He noted that El Salvador was meeting its CAFTA implementation obligations, but invited the Secretary to send the necessary message to other Presidents in the follow-on meeting about the importance of meeting CAFTA commitments.
5. (U) Saca focused his comments on CAFTA-DR on the political message of the Secretary's meeting with Central American Presidents. He said the meeting should show the United States' political support for the region, as a neighbor, especially in the face of the challenge from China. The message should be how CAFTA widened the free trade area: CAFTA was "half of the FTAA," he said, stressing the importance of entry into force on January 1, 2006 with all seven signatory countries. Saca said he believed that Costa Rica would find a way to ratify the agreement soon, but conceded that entry into force on January 1 even without Costa Rica was important to send the right political signal.
6. (SBU) Without CAFTA, Saca said, the outlook for the region would be difficult. He was very concerned with the trend in Latin America toward populist policies, a trend which he viewed as growing steadily stronger, and called CAFTA a triumph in that context. Saca said that Central America had gotten over populist movements, and he claimed that Central American presidents were like-minded in their philosophy. Still, there would be elections in 18 countries over the next 14 months and U.S. support was important to support democratic outcomes. Saca acknowledged frankly that El Salvador was in the United State's zone of influence and that the two countries needed to focus on strengthening that economic relationship, even though other potential trade partners were courting Central America and the United States.
7. (SBU) Saca explained that there were historical and continuing reasons (including the large Salvadoran population in the United States) for El Salvador's enduring, strong affinity for the United States. Saca said El Salvador lost little in identifying itself with the United States, adding that his ARENA party had won the election on a platform of free trade and with soldiers in Iraq. Saca predicted that the outcome of the upcoming March 2006 legislative and municipal elections would be similar to the 2004 Presidential elections in which voting was strong and the majority of votes were cast for ARENA; the election would result in a more favorable Assembly composition for the government, which would allow the GOES to implement important programs. Saca said that educating the U.S. Congress about CAFTA had been his role; recalling that some CAFTA opponents in Congress had told him that their Hispanic constituencies were against CAFTA, Saca countered that these voters did not represent Salvadorans, who wanted the GOES to be a friend of the United States. Saca thanked President Bush for being attentive to the relationship with El Salvador.
8. (U) The President commented that the GOES would announce within days the establishment of a Code of Ethics for government employees, drawing on the draft law that USAID had helped the GOES prepare, to send a message about its commitment to transparency. Saca linked this to El Salvador's efforts to secure a compact with the Millennium Challenge Corporation. Technical Secretary Eduardo Zablah explained that the Code of Ethics would be implemented under Executive authority by the end of October, with the purpose of preventing instances of corruption, especially in government procurement.
VENEZUELA AND OIL POLITICS
9. (SBU) Saca called Venezuela's Chavez a "headache for Latin America," but also said that Chavez was the most important issue for the region. Asked if Chavez was pressuring El Salvador, Saca said he had no doubt that Chavez supported the FMLN but claimed that Chavez had made no inroads in El Salvador. Commenting on a recent incident in with the GOES refused entry of Venezuelan nationals who arrived on a flight carrying relief supplies, Saca said that the 30 people who were turned back were not relief workers but activists seeking to generate support for Chavez and, by extension, those who thought just like Chavez in Cuba and Nicaragua.
10. (SBU) Saca commented that high world oil prices allowed Chavez to position himself as the "good guy"; without high oil prices, Chavez would not have the forum. Asked about Mexico, he added that Mexico should orient its petroleum policy more toward Latin America. Even though, in the end, Chavez' promises to sell oil more cheaply might not result in benefits for consumers, they generated expectations that Chavez used to his advantage. Mexico could help counter those expectations. Foreign Minister Lainez said that Foreign Ministers from the region would meet in Mexico on October 31 to discuss the possibility of developing PEMEX incentives for Central America.
NICARAGUA
11. (SBU) Saca expressed concern about political conditions in Nicaragua and the strength of Aleman's PLC and Ortega's FSLN parties. He suggested that an agreement brokered to freeze reforms until 2007 provided some breathing room, but admitted that he did not have a clear vision of how the political crisis would work itself out.
IRAQ
12. (SBU) Saca said it would be a good sign if the people of Iraq approved the draft Constitution put to a vote last weekend. He said that El Salvador had taken a large number of risks in Iraq and he called this the hardest theme of his administration.
REGIONAL INTEGRATION
13. (U) The Secretary asked about progress in harmonizing border crossing issues with neighboring countries, noting that consistency in customs administration was part of CAFTA. Saca said the region had advanced in integration and El Salvador had simplified border crossing procedures with Guatemala. Minister de Gavidia explained that El Salvador was working out an issue with Nicaragua over entry for foreign trucking. (Comment: Statements in the press conference following the meeting of Central American Presidents indicated that this issue was generally resolved, and President Bolanos' intervention was praised.) She informed the Secretary that Central America was considering the adoption of a protocol on key customs and border issues.
CONTAINER SECURITY INITIATIVE
14. (U) Ambassador Rene Leon asked for the Secretary's help in getting El Salvador into the Customs and Border Patrol's Container Security Initiative (CSI),raising an issue that Saca first proposed to USTR Zoellick a year ago (ref c). Leon said that to take advantage of CAFTA and give it an edge in commerce, El Salvador needed CSI. Leon asked for a pilot project at the existing Port of Acajutla to prepare for later introduction of CSI at the Port of La Union, where construction began several months ago. De Gavidia and President Saca stressed the value of CSI in exploiting the transportation linkages between the future La Union port and ports in Guatemala and Honduras. De Gavidia acknowledged that El Salvador did not have the volume of trade to justify CSI but stated that El Salvador wanted parity with Honduras on the issue. Secretary Gutierrez agreed to follow up.
15. (U) This cable was cleared by the delegation.
Barclay
SIPDIS
SENSITIVE
DEPT PASS USTR
E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: ETRD OVIP PREL EPET ECIN ES
SUBJECT: SECRETARY GUTIERREZ' BILATERAL MEETING WITH PRESIDENT SACA
REF: A. SAN SALVADOR 2818 B. SAN SALVADOR 2787 C. SAN SALVADOR 108
1. (SBU) Summary: Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez began his October 20-21 visit to El Salvador with a friendly but businesslike meeting with President Elias Antonio ("Tony") Saca. Saca reaffirmed El Salvador's commitment to CAFTA and to its relationship with the United States, thanking President Bush for his attention to El Salvador. He also stressed the importance of the CAFTA-DR agreement in pushing back against growing populism in the region, in particular that led by Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez. Saca commented on problems and progress in Central American integration and stability. Ambassador Rene Leon, in the meeting, renewed El Salvador's request to bring a U.S. Customs presence to El Salvador to improve its competitiveness in the region. End Summary.
2. (U) Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez began his October 20-21 visit to El Salvador with an hour-long meeting with President Elias Antonio ("Tony") Saca. Participants were:
USG
---
Secretary of Commerce Carlos Gutierrez
Ambassador H. Douglas Barclay
Claire Buchan, Secretary's Chief of Staff
Israel Hernandez, A/S and Director General, Commercial Service
Walter Bastian, DAS Western Hemisphere
Regional FCS Director Daniel Thompson
Economic Counselor Jessica Webster (notetaker)
GOES
--------------
President Elias Antonio (Tony) Saca
Foreign Minister Francisco Lainez
Minister of Economy Yolanda de Gavidia
Ambassador to the U.S. Rene Leon
Private Secretary Elmer Charlaix
Technical Secretary Eduardo Zablah
Vice Minister of Economy Eduardo Ayala Grimaldi
Vice Minister of Economy Blanca Imelda Jaco de Magana
3. (U) The meeting was friendly but businesslike, covering CAFTA and regional political issues. Both the Secretary and President Saca emphasized the value of the U.S.-Salvadoran relationship. Secretary Gutierrez thanked the President for El Salvador's firm and steady support of the U.S., in public and in private, citing in particular El Salvador's participation in Iraq and Saca's leadership in securing Salvadoran and U.S. Congressional approval of CAFTA. President Saca thanked Secretary Gutierrez for his own work to get CAFTA approved.
CAFTA
4. (U) President Saca reiterated El Salvador's commitment to the CAFTA-DR agreement. He expressed his confidence that CAFTA could be implemented in January 2006 and told the Secretary that El Salvador had already made most of the changes necessary to comply with the terms of the accord, noting that the GOES expected to secure legislative approval for reforms to its intellectual property rights law in November. He noted that El Salvador was meeting its CAFTA implementation obligations, but invited the Secretary to send the necessary message to other Presidents in the follow-on meeting about the importance of meeting CAFTA commitments.
5. (U) Saca focused his comments on CAFTA-DR on the political message of the Secretary's meeting with Central American Presidents. He said the meeting should show the United States' political support for the region, as a neighbor, especially in the face of the challenge from China. The message should be how CAFTA widened the free trade area: CAFTA was "half of the FTAA," he said, stressing the importance of entry into force on January 1, 2006 with all seven signatory countries. Saca said he believed that Costa Rica would find a way to ratify the agreement soon, but conceded that entry into force on January 1 even without Costa Rica was important to send the right political signal.
6. (SBU) Without CAFTA, Saca said, the outlook for the region would be difficult. He was very concerned with the trend in Latin America toward populist policies, a trend which he viewed as growing steadily stronger, and called CAFTA a triumph in that context. Saca said that Central America had gotten over populist movements, and he claimed that Central American presidents were like-minded in their philosophy. Still, there would be elections in 18 countries over the next 14 months and U.S. support was important to support democratic outcomes. Saca acknowledged frankly that El Salvador was in the United State's zone of influence and that the two countries needed to focus on strengthening that economic relationship, even though other potential trade partners were courting Central America and the United States.
7. (SBU) Saca explained that there were historical and continuing reasons (including the large Salvadoran population in the United States) for El Salvador's enduring, strong affinity for the United States. Saca said El Salvador lost little in identifying itself with the United States, adding that his ARENA party had won the election on a platform of free trade and with soldiers in Iraq. Saca predicted that the outcome of the upcoming March 2006 legislative and municipal elections would be similar to the 2004 Presidential elections in which voting was strong and the majority of votes were cast for ARENA; the election would result in a more favorable Assembly composition for the government, which would allow the GOES to implement important programs. Saca said that educating the U.S. Congress about CAFTA had been his role; recalling that some CAFTA opponents in Congress had told him that their Hispanic constituencies were against CAFTA, Saca countered that these voters did not represent Salvadorans, who wanted the GOES to be a friend of the United States. Saca thanked President Bush for being attentive to the relationship with El Salvador.
8. (U) The President commented that the GOES would announce within days the establishment of a Code of Ethics for government employees, drawing on the draft law that USAID had helped the GOES prepare, to send a message about its commitment to transparency. Saca linked this to El Salvador's efforts to secure a compact with the Millennium Challenge Corporation. Technical Secretary Eduardo Zablah explained that the Code of Ethics would be implemented under Executive authority by the end of October, with the purpose of preventing instances of corruption, especially in government procurement.
VENEZUELA AND OIL POLITICS
9. (SBU) Saca called Venezuela's Chavez a "headache for Latin America," but also said that Chavez was the most important issue for the region. Asked if Chavez was pressuring El Salvador, Saca said he had no doubt that Chavez supported the FMLN but claimed that Chavez had made no inroads in El Salvador. Commenting on a recent incident in with the GOES refused entry of Venezuelan nationals who arrived on a flight carrying relief supplies, Saca said that the 30 people who were turned back were not relief workers but activists seeking to generate support for Chavez and, by extension, those who thought just like Chavez in Cuba and Nicaragua.
10. (SBU) Saca commented that high world oil prices allowed Chavez to position himself as the "good guy"; without high oil prices, Chavez would not have the forum. Asked about Mexico, he added that Mexico should orient its petroleum policy more toward Latin America. Even though, in the end, Chavez' promises to sell oil more cheaply might not result in benefits for consumers, they generated expectations that Chavez used to his advantage. Mexico could help counter those expectations. Foreign Minister Lainez said that Foreign Ministers from the region would meet in Mexico on October 31 to discuss the possibility of developing PEMEX incentives for Central America.
NICARAGUA
11. (SBU) Saca expressed concern about political conditions in Nicaragua and the strength of Aleman's PLC and Ortega's FSLN parties. He suggested that an agreement brokered to freeze reforms until 2007 provided some breathing room, but admitted that he did not have a clear vision of how the political crisis would work itself out.
IRAQ
12. (SBU) Saca said it would be a good sign if the people of Iraq approved the draft Constitution put to a vote last weekend. He said that El Salvador had taken a large number of risks in Iraq and he called this the hardest theme of his administration.
REGIONAL INTEGRATION
13. (U) The Secretary asked about progress in harmonizing border crossing issues with neighboring countries, noting that consistency in customs administration was part of CAFTA. Saca said the region had advanced in integration and El Salvador had simplified border crossing procedures with Guatemala. Minister de Gavidia explained that El Salvador was working out an issue with Nicaragua over entry for foreign trucking. (Comment: Statements in the press conference following the meeting of Central American Presidents indicated that this issue was generally resolved, and President Bolanos' intervention was praised.) She informed the Secretary that Central America was considering the adoption of a protocol on key customs and border issues.
CONTAINER SECURITY INITIATIVE
14. (U) Ambassador Rene Leon asked for the Secretary's help in getting El Salvador into the Customs and Border Patrol's Container Security Initiative (CSI),raising an issue that Saca first proposed to USTR Zoellick a year ago (ref c). Leon said that to take advantage of CAFTA and give it an edge in commerce, El Salvador needed CSI. Leon asked for a pilot project at the existing Port of Acajutla to prepare for later introduction of CSI at the Port of La Union, where construction began several months ago. De Gavidia and President Saca stressed the value of CSI in exploiting the transportation linkages between the future La Union port and ports in Guatemala and Honduras. De Gavidia acknowledged that El Salvador did not have the volume of trade to justify CSI but stated that El Salvador wanted parity with Honduras on the issue. Secretary Gutierrez agreed to follow up.
15. (U) This cable was cleared by the delegation.
Barclay