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05NEWDELHI1546
2005-03-01 11:14:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy New Delhi
Cable title:
MEA CAUTIOUSLY UPBEAT ON INDO-PAK
how-toThis record is a partial extract of the original cable. The full text of the original cable is not available.
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 04 NEW DELHI 001546
SIPDIS
STATE FOR INR/B
E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/02/2015
TAGS: PREL PTER PINR MOPS KNNP IN PK INDO PAK
SUBJECT: MEA CAUTIOUSLY UPBEAT ON INDO-PAK
REF: A. NEW DELHI 1282
B. NEW DELHI 1480
Classified By: PolCouns Geoff Pyatt for Reasons 1.4 (B, D)
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 04 NEW DELHI 001546
SIPDIS
STATE FOR INR/B
E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/02/2015
TAGS: PREL PTER PINR MOPS KNNP IN PK INDO PAK
SUBJECT: MEA CAUTIOUSLY UPBEAT ON INDO-PAK
REF: A. NEW DELHI 1282
B. NEW DELHI 1480
Classified By: PolCouns Geoff Pyatt for Reasons 1.4 (B, D)
1. (C) Summary: In a February 28 conversation with PolCouns and Poloff, outgoing MEA Joint Secretary (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran) Arun K Singh was generally upbeat about short-term Indo-Pak rapprochement, and expressed cautious optimism about long-term sustainability of this trend. After sharing impressions from his recent trip to Islamabad with Foreign Minister Natwar Singh, Singh sketched out a fairly ambitious but realistic diplomatic agenda for the Spring, which will culminate in a meeting between the two Foreign Secretaries in July. Singh ticked off a short list of
SIPDIS technical agreements that he predicted would be ready for signature then. He added that the time was not yet ripe for redeploying medium-range missiles, and predicted that the PM's trip to Islamabad would probably happen not in March, but later in the year. Singh was enthusiastic about the growth of Indo-Pak grassroots connections, the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad (and other proposed) bus links, and the upcoming India tour of Pakistan's cricket team. He presented the Baglihar Dam impasse and Pakistani inaction against terrorist infrastructure as problems to overcome, but not as risks to the peace process. This is also Singh's final week before he hands his office over to J/S (Establishment) Dilip Sinha and begins to prepare for his next posting as India's Ambassador to Israel. Singh is one of the Indian Foreign Ministry's rising stars, and we commend him to Embassy Tel Aviv. End Summary.
Upbeat on the Indo-Pak Trajectory
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2. (C) Opening the February 28 discussion with PolCouns and Poloff with macro observations on Indo-Pak relations, J/S Singh was upbeat for the short term but cautioned that it would be ""2-3 years"" before he would say that the improvement was sustainable, stressing that ""we need to make leaving the dialogue more difficult."" Pointing to the February 25-27 Pakistan-India Peoples' Forum in New Delhi as the most recent people-to-people success, he noted that over 400 Pakistanis joined a like number of Indians for the weekend convention.
Indo-Pak Agenda Remains Ambitious but Realistic
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3. (C) Turning to official interaction, Singh outlined an ambitious bilateral agenda for the Spring. Dates for technical talks on nuclear and conventional CBMs, maritime CBMs, border security issues, and the Lahore-Amritsar-Nankana Sahib bus services would be set soon, he said, followed by the Composite Dialogue (Siachen, Sir Creek, Tulbul Navigation/Wullar Barrage, Terrorism and Narcotics Trafficking, Economic Cooperation, and Kashmir). The pending round of talks would culminate with the Foreign Secretaries meeting in July. Singh specified that the MEA would focus on a few items -- finalizing an agreement on pre-notification of missile tests and MoUs on maritime incidents and on accidental/unauthorized nuclear launches -- that had been targeted for Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran's signature in July. When PolCouns asked about an agreement to move medium-range missiles away from border areas, Singh responded that it was too soon to discuss that level of CBM.
4. (C) Sharing his impressions of the ""immensely successful"" trip with Foreign Minister Natwar Singh, Singh described a gradual recognition in the Pakistani establishment that coming to closure on Kashmir would not be easy, and that progress would have to come incrementally. He also observed that both governments had been constrained by their own past articulation of the issues, and were only now breaking away from old positions. Asked for his impressions of the Pakistani political dynamic, Singh remarked that dissident voices remain, but there is a growing awareness that there is no alternative to a political settlement on bilateral issues.
Keeping PM Visit in the Pocket
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5. (C) Singh doubted that PM Manmohan Singh would accept Islamabad's invitation to visit in March, explaining that domestic politics would keep the PM occupied for at least the next several weeks. He added that a PM visit would have to wait for the right timing, when it could ""add to the process."" Singh concluded that a March trip would be too soon after the successful Natwar Singh visit.
Srinagar Bus to Depart on Time, Others to Follow
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6. (C) Joking that the permits and logistical details (roads and bridges) necessary for the April 7 inauguration of the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad bus were ""driving me mad,"" Singh insisted that the bus would depart on time. When asked about other proposed cross-LOC bus links, such as Jammu-Sialkot, he cautioned that the GOI would have to wait and see how well the first bus service goes before planning additional routes in Kashmir.
7. (C) Singh saw no obstacles facing the proposed Amritsar-Lahore-Nankana Sahib bus routes that would cross the international border, and he predicted that those proposals should be cleared during an April technical-level meeting.
In the interim, two busses might be given special permission to cross the border before the official service begins: one on March 14 for the laying of the cornerstone for the connecting road, and one for the April 14 New Year festival of Baisakhi, which has added importance as the anniversary of the establishment of the present structure of Sikhism. ""The two Punjab Chief Ministers are successfully running their own foreign policy,"" Singh remarked lightly. He was also upbeat on the Khokhrapar-Munnabao rail service starting on time in October, and conveyed that the Pakistanis he met in Islamabad were also optomistic.
Cricket: The Best CBM
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8. (C) The best Indo-Pak CBM is cricket, Singh observed, reporting that three Indian visa officers camped in Lahore's Qadhafi Stadium had already issued over 3,000 visas to Pakistanis who purchased tickets for the upcoming Indian matches. As a bonus, ticket-holders would be permitted to cross the Wagha border and then be given a free bus ride ""that will run every five minutes"" to the March 8-12 match site in Mohali, Punjab. According to Indian press, 10,000 anticipated Pakistani visitors are expected to begin arriving by March 5.
Baglihar: Pak is Wrong, but We Will Respect Decision
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9. (C) Singh advised that the MEA planned to deliver to the World Bank its response to Pakistan's petition against Baglihar Dam (Ref A) on February 28. He reiterated the standard GOI rebuttal that: (1) Baglihar complies with the Indus Water Treaty; (2) Islamabad's move to engage the World Bank dispute resolution process was ""premature;"" and (3)
Islamabad's objections are ""paranoia or political,"" not technical. When asked by PolCouns why the MEA was not as politically active on this issue as the Pakistan High Commission, Singh responded that New Delhi is taking a ""less aggressive approach"" and ""keeping the tone low."" He agreed, however, that if the dispute resolution process leads to a finding against the GOI, ""we will comply."" Meanwhile, in a tangible vote of confidence for New Delhi's position, Finance Minister P Chidambaran announced that the 2005-06 Budget includes a line item of USD 70 million for Baglihar's construction and that adequate funds would be provided for the following year as well.
Infiltration Down but Infrastructure Remains
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10. (C) Turning to the subject of cross-border terrorism, Singh shared with us the GOI assessment that infiltration remained low but there have been no GOP moves against terrorist infrastructure, reiterating that Indo-Pak rapprochement depended on Pakistan President Musharraf's ""January 6, 2004 promise"" not to permit terrorists to operate from Pakistan. Singh pointed out that the February 24 suicide terrorist attack in Srinagar targeted the Divisional Commissioner's office, which houses the Regional Passport Office -- the Indian agency that is to certify and issue entry permits for passengers on the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad bus. To PolCouns' question of whether the GOI was concerned that terrorists would use the bus to infiltrate across the border (as the BJP has charged),Singh answered that it was not a serious threat, because the applications for entry permits require the same information that otherwise would have been used to obtain visas.
Bio-Note: MEA J/S Dilip Sinha
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11. (C) J/S (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran) Dilip Sinha assumed his current charge on March 1. Born into an upper-caste Kayashta family in Bihar, one of his uncles is former Foreign Minister Yashwant Sinha. This connection has not hampered his career under the UPA government, as FM Natwar Singh appears to have hand-picked Sinha for his new posting, which is one of the most high profile in the Indian Foreign Service. In his prior position as J/S (Establishment),he was responsible for preparing lists of assignments and promotions for the Foreign Secretary to approve, as well coordinating with the J/S (Administration)
on running MEA's overseas Missions. Sinha was reportedly tipped to replace Navtej Sarna as MEA Spokesman in July 2004, but that promotion fell through. He has served in Bangladesh, Brazil, Egypt, Germany and Pakistan. Career highlights include:
-- 1978 Joined Indian Foreign Service
-- 1986-90 First Secretary (Political),Islamabad
-- 1991-95 Director, PMO (Chandra Shekhar/Narasimha Rao governments)
-- late 1990s Posted to UN Mission/Geneva
-- 2001-04 DCM, Dhaka
-- 2004-05 J/S (Establishment)
Comment
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12. (C) This was Singh's last day Joint Secretary (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran). His replacement, J/S (Establishment)
Dilip Sinha, will overlap with him until mid-March and then Singh will prepare for his next post as India's Ambassador in Tel Aviv. Singh seemed genuinely optimistic for the next six months of the Indo-Pak agenda, even when discussing the most contentious current issues such as Baglihar and cross-border terrorism. Acknowledging that the process is neither complete nor self-sustaining, he clearly views the momentum of the relationship going in the right direction, especially when seen from the perspective of someone who worked the 2002 near-war with Pakistan.
MULFORD
SIPDIS
STATE FOR INR/B
E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/02/2015
TAGS: PREL PTER PINR MOPS KNNP IN PK INDO PAK
SUBJECT: MEA CAUTIOUSLY UPBEAT ON INDO-PAK
REF: A. NEW DELHI 1282
B. NEW DELHI 1480
Classified By: PolCouns Geoff Pyatt for Reasons 1.4 (B, D)
1. (C) Summary: In a February 28 conversation with PolCouns and Poloff, outgoing MEA Joint Secretary (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran) Arun K Singh was generally upbeat about short-term Indo-Pak rapprochement, and expressed cautious optimism about long-term sustainability of this trend. After sharing impressions from his recent trip to Islamabad with Foreign Minister Natwar Singh, Singh sketched out a fairly ambitious but realistic diplomatic agenda for the Spring, which will culminate in a meeting between the two Foreign Secretaries in July. Singh ticked off a short list of
SIPDIS technical agreements that he predicted would be ready for signature then. He added that the time was not yet ripe for redeploying medium-range missiles, and predicted that the PM's trip to Islamabad would probably happen not in March, but later in the year. Singh was enthusiastic about the growth of Indo-Pak grassroots connections, the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad (and other proposed) bus links, and the upcoming India tour of Pakistan's cricket team. He presented the Baglihar Dam impasse and Pakistani inaction against terrorist infrastructure as problems to overcome, but not as risks to the peace process. This is also Singh's final week before he hands his office over to J/S (Establishment) Dilip Sinha and begins to prepare for his next posting as India's Ambassador to Israel. Singh is one of the Indian Foreign Ministry's rising stars, and we commend him to Embassy Tel Aviv. End Summary.
Upbeat on the Indo-Pak Trajectory
--------------
2. (C) Opening the February 28 discussion with PolCouns and Poloff with macro observations on Indo-Pak relations, J/S Singh was upbeat for the short term but cautioned that it would be ""2-3 years"" before he would say that the improvement was sustainable, stressing that ""we need to make leaving the dialogue more difficult."" Pointing to the February 25-27 Pakistan-India Peoples' Forum in New Delhi as the most recent people-to-people success, he noted that over 400 Pakistanis joined a like number of Indians for the weekend convention.
Indo-Pak Agenda Remains Ambitious but Realistic
-------------- --
3. (C) Turning to official interaction, Singh outlined an ambitious bilateral agenda for the Spring. Dates for technical talks on nuclear and conventional CBMs, maritime CBMs, border security issues, and the Lahore-Amritsar-Nankana Sahib bus services would be set soon, he said, followed by the Composite Dialogue (Siachen, Sir Creek, Tulbul Navigation/Wullar Barrage, Terrorism and Narcotics Trafficking, Economic Cooperation, and Kashmir). The pending round of talks would culminate with the Foreign Secretaries meeting in July. Singh specified that the MEA would focus on a few items -- finalizing an agreement on pre-notification of missile tests and MoUs on maritime incidents and on accidental/unauthorized nuclear launches -- that had been targeted for Foreign Secretary Shyam Saran's signature in July. When PolCouns asked about an agreement to move medium-range missiles away from border areas, Singh responded that it was too soon to discuss that level of CBM.
4. (C) Sharing his impressions of the ""immensely successful"" trip with Foreign Minister Natwar Singh, Singh described a gradual recognition in the Pakistani establishment that coming to closure on Kashmir would not be easy, and that progress would have to come incrementally. He also observed that both governments had been constrained by their own past articulation of the issues, and were only now breaking away from old positions. Asked for his impressions of the Pakistani political dynamic, Singh remarked that dissident voices remain, but there is a growing awareness that there is no alternative to a political settlement on bilateral issues.
Keeping PM Visit in the Pocket
--------------
5. (C) Singh doubted that PM Manmohan Singh would accept Islamabad's invitation to visit in March, explaining that domestic politics would keep the PM occupied for at least the next several weeks. He added that a PM visit would have to wait for the right timing, when it could ""add to the process."" Singh concluded that a March trip would be too soon after the successful Natwar Singh visit.
Srinagar Bus to Depart on Time, Others to Follow
-------------- ---
6. (C) Joking that the permits and logistical details (roads and bridges) necessary for the April 7 inauguration of the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad bus were ""driving me mad,"" Singh insisted that the bus would depart on time. When asked about other proposed cross-LOC bus links, such as Jammu-Sialkot, he cautioned that the GOI would have to wait and see how well the first bus service goes before planning additional routes in Kashmir.
7. (C) Singh saw no obstacles facing the proposed Amritsar-Lahore-Nankana Sahib bus routes that would cross the international border, and he predicted that those proposals should be cleared during an April technical-level meeting.
In the interim, two busses might be given special permission to cross the border before the official service begins: one on March 14 for the laying of the cornerstone for the connecting road, and one for the April 14 New Year festival of Baisakhi, which has added importance as the anniversary of the establishment of the present structure of Sikhism. ""The two Punjab Chief Ministers are successfully running their own foreign policy,"" Singh remarked lightly. He was also upbeat on the Khokhrapar-Munnabao rail service starting on time in October, and conveyed that the Pakistanis he met in Islamabad were also optomistic.
Cricket: The Best CBM
--------------
8. (C) The best Indo-Pak CBM is cricket, Singh observed, reporting that three Indian visa officers camped in Lahore's Qadhafi Stadium had already issued over 3,000 visas to Pakistanis who purchased tickets for the upcoming Indian matches. As a bonus, ticket-holders would be permitted to cross the Wagha border and then be given a free bus ride ""that will run every five minutes"" to the March 8-12 match site in Mohali, Punjab. According to Indian press, 10,000 anticipated Pakistani visitors are expected to begin arriving by March 5.
Baglihar: Pak is Wrong, but We Will Respect Decision
-------------- --------------
9. (C) Singh advised that the MEA planned to deliver to the World Bank its response to Pakistan's petition against Baglihar Dam (Ref A) on February 28. He reiterated the standard GOI rebuttal that: (1) Baglihar complies with the Indus Water Treaty; (2) Islamabad's move to engage the World Bank dispute resolution process was ""premature;"" and (3)
Islamabad's objections are ""paranoia or political,"" not technical. When asked by PolCouns why the MEA was not as politically active on this issue as the Pakistan High Commission, Singh responded that New Delhi is taking a ""less aggressive approach"" and ""keeping the tone low."" He agreed, however, that if the dispute resolution process leads to a finding against the GOI, ""we will comply."" Meanwhile, in a tangible vote of confidence for New Delhi's position, Finance Minister P Chidambaran announced that the 2005-06 Budget includes a line item of USD 70 million for Baglihar's construction and that adequate funds would be provided for the following year as well.
Infiltration Down but Infrastructure Remains
--------------
10. (C) Turning to the subject of cross-border terrorism, Singh shared with us the GOI assessment that infiltration remained low but there have been no GOP moves against terrorist infrastructure, reiterating that Indo-Pak rapprochement depended on Pakistan President Musharraf's ""January 6, 2004 promise"" not to permit terrorists to operate from Pakistan. Singh pointed out that the February 24 suicide terrorist attack in Srinagar targeted the Divisional Commissioner's office, which houses the Regional Passport Office -- the Indian agency that is to certify and issue entry permits for passengers on the Srinagar-Muzaffarabad bus. To PolCouns' question of whether the GOI was concerned that terrorists would use the bus to infiltrate across the border (as the BJP has charged),Singh answered that it was not a serious threat, because the applications for entry permits require the same information that otherwise would have been used to obtain visas.
Bio-Note: MEA J/S Dilip Sinha
--------------
11. (C) J/S (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran) Dilip Sinha assumed his current charge on March 1. Born into an upper-caste Kayashta family in Bihar, one of his uncles is former Foreign Minister Yashwant Sinha. This connection has not hampered his career under the UPA government, as FM Natwar Singh appears to have hand-picked Sinha for his new posting, which is one of the most high profile in the Indian Foreign Service. In his prior position as J/S (Establishment),he was responsible for preparing lists of assignments and promotions for the Foreign Secretary to approve, as well coordinating with the J/S (Administration)
on running MEA's overseas Missions. Sinha was reportedly tipped to replace Navtej Sarna as MEA Spokesman in July 2004, but that promotion fell through. He has served in Bangladesh, Brazil, Egypt, Germany and Pakistan. Career highlights include:
-- 1978 Joined Indian Foreign Service
-- 1986-90 First Secretary (Political),Islamabad
-- 1991-95 Director, PMO (Chandra Shekhar/Narasimha Rao governments)
-- late 1990s Posted to UN Mission/Geneva
-- 2001-04 DCM, Dhaka
-- 2004-05 J/S (Establishment)
Comment
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12. (C) This was Singh's last day Joint Secretary (Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iran). His replacement, J/S (Establishment)
Dilip Sinha, will overlap with him until mid-March and then Singh will prepare for his next post as India's Ambassador in Tel Aviv. Singh seemed genuinely optimistic for the next six months of the Indo-Pak agenda, even when discussing the most contentious current issues such as Baglihar and cross-border terrorism. Acknowledging that the process is neither complete nor self-sustaining, he clearly views the momentum of the relationship going in the right direction, especially when seen from the perspective of someone who worked the 2002 near-war with Pakistan.
MULFORD