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04ISTANBUL843
2004-05-28 10:01:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Consulate Istanbul
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"WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU": NEW COMMISSION DISPLAYS

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ISTANBUL 000843 

SIPDIS


E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/21/2014
TAGS: PHUM PGOV TU
SUBJECT: "WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU": NEW COMMISSION DISPLAYS
OLD ATTITUDES ON RELIGIOUS MINORITY ISSUES

Classified By: Consul General David Arnett for Reasons 1.5 (b&d)


C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 ISTANBUL 000843

SIPDIS


E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/21/2014
TAGS: PHUM PGOV TU
SUBJECT: "WE'RE HERE TO HELP YOU": NEW COMMISSION DISPLAYS
OLD ATTITUDES ON RELIGIOUS MINORITY ISSUES

Classified By: Consul General David Arnett for Reasons 1.5 (b&d)



1. (c) Summary: A delegation of the new inter-ministerial
commission charged with resolving outstanding minority issues
visited Istanbul in January to meet with the leaders of the
religious communities and to follow up on complaints that the
religious leaders had passed to Prime Minister Erdogan last
fall. Although this commission replaced the now-abolished
(and previously scret) "Minority Control Commission," its
delegaton to Istanbul clearly demonstrated that old habits
die hard. End Summary.



2. (c) The EcumenicalPatriarchate and the ARMENIAn Orthodox
Patriarchshared their accounts of January 20 meetings with
delgaionfr
nkra sent by the new inter-miiseral
cmmssin harged with resolving the miority communities'
outstanding human rights and eligious freedoms issues. Both
Metropoliton Melton (the Ecumenical Patriarch's de facto
chief aviser) and ARMENIAn Patriarch Mesrob II remarked o
the composition of the delegaton-- mbassador olukbasi,
two other repreenttiesfrm te inistry of Foreign
Affairs,andon frm he Ministry of Interior (they were
joined by a representative from the Istanbul Polie
Department) -- as yet another indication of how the Turkish
government continues to treat the minority communities as
"foreigners" in their own country. dditionally, rather than
conduct the meetings in their personal offices, the religious
leaders were asked to come to the Governor's office where
(after being greeted by the Governor) they met with the
government delegation.



3. (c) Patriarchal Elections: The Greek Orthodox Community
has long complained about requirements (based only on
pronouncements by the Istanbul Governor) that those voting
and those elected to serve as the Patriarch and on the Holy
Synod be Turkish citizens. With less than 3000 Greek
Orthodox left in Turkey, the community's ability to produce
qualified clergy and its very sustainability are in doubt.


Following up on these concerns, the delegation insisted on
the legality and the continued applicability of these
restrictions. Bolukbasi also questioned whether it would
ever be possible to confer Turkish citizenship on a

non-Turkish Patriarch, as was done with Patriarch Athenagoras
in 1948 (Note: Athenagoras, an American citizen and then
Archbishop of America, was elected as Ecumenical Patriarch
with the support of the U.S., Greek, and Turkish governments
at the time. End Note). Rather than address the community's
underlying concern about its long-term viability, Bolukbasi
simply suggested that current restrictions be maintained and
a new legal procedure be established for future elections.
In his meeting with Mesrob, Bolukbasi indicated that they
hoped to use a draft regulation that he had proposed after
his own election as a model for the other communities.



4. (c) Halki Seminary: Closed since 1971, the Ecumenical
Patriarchate hopes to reopen this school under its former
status (i.e., largely independent). The Turkish government
has insisted that as a "higher education" institution, it can
only be reopened as a part of a university under the direct
control of the Higher Education Council.


On this issue, Bolukbasi pointed to the declining numbers of
Greek Orthodox in Turkey and questioned whether such a
seminary would find enough students in order to be
financially viable. In response to the Patriarch's request
that the school be reopened under its prior status as a
"vocational high school" and be able to educate foreign
seminarians, Bolukbasi simply said that any school providing
4 years of post-high school education could not be so
classified and that foreign students would need special
permission to study there (and would be banned from working
in Turkey in any case). Bolukbasi insisted that the school
could only be opened under the authority of the Higher
Education Council, i.e., as a faculty of an existing
university. The ARMENIAn community has no desire to open a
seminary (its priests are trained in Jerusalem),but Mesrob
noted the need for a college or university faculty that could
teach the ARMENIAn language, literature, and culture.



5. (c) Orphanage: A historically-significant orphanage on
Buyukada that once belonged to the Greek Orthodox community
has fallen into disrepair. The Ecumenical Patriarchate
discontinued plans to renovate the building (and rent it out
as a hotel) when its ownership was challenged by the Turkish
government.


While refusing to acknowledge the Patriarchate's legal title
to the property, Bolukbasi nevertheless urged the Patriarch
to cooperate in having the building restored. (Note:
Subsequent to this meeting the orphanage was formally
expropriated by the state).



6. (c) Other Issues: Bolukbasi deflected a request to have
the 1936 foundations law amended to give the state the power
to return expropriated properties. Asked to help obtain
residence permits for foreign clergy (who are obliged to
leave Turkey every 3 months to renew their tourist visas),
Bolukbasi merely suggested that they submit applications to
the relevant authorities (Note: A previous such applicant had
been deported as a result).


Comment
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7. (c) The mere fact of the visit and the desire to put an
end to the problems of the religious communities represents
progress of a sort. But the reported attitudes of the
delegation in the meetings does not bode well for the
resolution of these outstanding issues in the near-to-medium
term. Mesrob himself noted that the participation of
Ambassador Bolukbasi was "particularly unfortunate and
discouraging" since this diplomat "is believed to be an
inveterate proponent of the traditional Kemalist line
concerning minority issues."


ARNETT