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94RIYADH2051
1994-04-16 12:18:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Riyadh
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THE SAUDI MAJLIS ASH-SHURA: NO PROBLEMS,

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R 161218Z APR 94
FM AMEMBASSY RIYADH
TO SECSTATE WASHDC 4680
INFO ARAB LEAGUE COLLECTIVE
USIA WASHDC 1464
USCINCCENT MACDILL AFB FL
C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 RIYADH 002051 

USIA FOR NEA (HUNTER/KHOURY),R (POLLACK),P/G

E.O.12356: DECL: OADR
TAGS: PGOV KISL SA
SUBJECT: THE SAUDI MAJLIS ASH-SHURA: NO PROBLEMS,
NO VISITORS, NO VISIBLE RESULTS

REF: (A) 93 RIYADH 8901, (B) 93 JEDDAH 2550,
(C) 93 RIYADH 4727


C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 RIYADH 002051

USIA FOR NEA (HUNTER/KHOURY),R (POLLACK),P/G

E.O.12356: DECL: OADR
TAGS: PGOV KISL SA
SUBJECT: THE SAUDI MAJLIS ASH-SHURA: NO PROBLEMS,
NO VISITORS, NO VISIBLE RESULTS

REF: (A) 93 RIYADH 8901, (B) 93 JEDDAH 2550,
(C) 93 RIYADH 4727



1. CONFIDENTIAL -- ENTIRE TEXT.


2. SUMMARY: MAJLIS ASH-SHURA PRESIDENT MOHAMMED BIN
JUBAIR REVIEWED IN GENERAL TERMS THE WORK OF THE MAJLIS
ASH-SHURA, ASSERTING THAT IT WAS PROCEEDING SMOOTHLY AND
SATISFACTORILY. HE SAID, WITHOUT ELABORATION, THAT THE
MAJLIS ASH-SHURA HAS NOT YET ESTABLISHED A VISITORS
POLICY. ON FOREIGN POLICY, BIN JUBAIR SAID THAT THE
ATTAINMENT OF PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST WAS PARAMOUNT,
THAT HE SUPPORTED U.S. PRESSURE ON NORTH KOREA (BUT
WONDERED WHY THE U.S. DOES NOT APPLY EQUAL PRESSURE ON
ISRAEL BECAUSE OF ITS NUCLEAR WEAPONS),AND THAT HE
APPROVED OF RECENT U.N. ACTIONS IN BOSNIA. END SUMMARY.


3. CHARGE APRIL 13 MET WITH MAJLIS ASH-SHURA
(CONSULTATIVE COUNCIL) PRESIDENT MOHAMMAD BIN JUBAIR TO
OFFER HIS PERSONAL CONGRATULATIONS ON THE INAUGURATION
OF THE MAJLIS ASH-SHURA BY KING FAHD LAST DECEMBER 29
(REF A) AND TO REVIEW WITH BIN JUBAIR THE ACTIVITIES OF
THE BODY SINCE THEN.


REVIEWS WORK OF COUNCIL: NO PROBLEMS
--------------


4. BIN JUBAIR SAID THE WORK OF THE COUNCIL WAS GOING
SMOOTHLY. COMMITTEES, COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN AND COMMITTEE
VICE-CHAIRMEN HAD BEEN NAMED AND EVERYONE WAS VERY BUSY
AT WORK. THE COUNCIL MEETS TWICE A MONTH (ON SUNDAYS)
AND ITS COMMITTEES MEET ONCE OR TWICE A WEEK. HE SAID
THAT THE COUNCIL IS CURRENTLY FOCUSING ITS ATTENTION ON
"REGULATIONS" AND "INTERNATIONAL AGREEMENTS."


5. REVIEWING PROCEDURE -- AND CONFIRMING INFORMATION
GIVEN TO US IN DECEMBER BY MAJLIS ASH-SHURA VICE
PRESIDENT ABDULLAH NASEEF (REF B) -- BIN JUBAIR SAID
THAT AFTER A COMMITTEE HAS STUDIED AN ISSUE, IT SENDS A
REPORT TO THE FULL COUNCIL. IF THERE ARE OBJECTIONS IN
THE COUNCIL, THE REPORT IS REVIEWED BY THE EXECUTIVE
COMMITTEE OF THE COUNCIL (COMPRISED OF THE PRESIDENT,
VICE-PRESIDENT AND COMMITTEE CHAIRMEN) WHICH DECIDES
WHETHER THE REPORT IS TO BE SENT BACK TO COMMITTEE FOR
FURTHER WORK OR FORWARDED TO THE COUNCIL OF MINISTERS
FOR ACTION.


6. ON THE RELATIONSHIP OF THE MAJLIS ASH-SHURA AND THE
REGIONAL COUNCILS, BIN JUBAIR SAID THAT THERE WAS AS YET
NO WORKING RELATIONSHIP. BUT HE EXPRESSED THE HOPE THAT
THE REGIONAL BODIES AND THE MAJLIS MIGHT IN FUTURE SHARE

"STUDIES AND OPINIONS ON CERTAIN TOPICS," PERHAPS
THROUGH AN ANNUAL JOINT MEETING WHICH MIGHT "OPEN A NEW
ERA FOR CONSULTATION, DISCUSSIONS AND NEW IDEAS."


7. RESPONDING TO CHARGE'S QUESTION AS TO HOW OTHER SAG
GOVERNMENT AGENCIES WERE REACTING TO THE MAJLIS
ASH-SHURA, BIN JUBAIR SAID THAT THE MINISTRIES WERE
GENERALLY PLEASED WITH THE FACT THAT THEY COULD REFER
THEIR PROBLEMS/ISSUES TO THE MAJLIS WHERE SPECIALISTS
COULD STUDY AND THEN RECOMMEND SOLUTIONS FOR THEM. HE
NOTED HERE THAT ALTHOUGH THERE WERE THREE "POWERS" IN
THE KINGDOM -- THE JUDICIAL, THE EXECUTIVE, AND THE
ORGANIZATIONAL -- THE JUDICIAL (THE ISLAMIC LAW OF THE
SHARIA)) WAS SUPREME, I.E. THAT THERE WAS NO SET OF
CHECKS AND BALANCES AT WORK, BUT RATHER LAW DERIVED FROM
THE QURAN WITH WHICH THE BEHAVIOR OF RULERS AND COUNCILS
ALIKE MUST BE CONSISTENT.


UNTIL PROCEDURES ARE ANNOUNCED: NO VISITORS
--------------


8. CHARGE ASKED WHETHER THE MAJLIS HAD DEVELOPED A
VISITORS POLICY. HE NOTED THAT THERE IS CONSIDERABLE
INTEREST IN THE ACTIVITIES OF THE MAJLIS ASH-SHURA IN
THE U.S. -- THAT NEWS OF THE INAUGURATION OF THE MAJLIS
IN DECEMBER HAD MADE THE EVEN LOCAL CALIFORNIA PAPERS
WHERE CHARGE HAD BEEN ON LEAVE -- AND THAT FUTURE
OFFICIAL AND UNOFFICIAL VISITORS TO THE KINGDOM WOULD
CERTAINLY BE SEEKING TO MEET WITH MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL.


9. JUBAIR SAID THAT THERE WAS AS YET NO PROCEDURE
WHEREBY FOREIGN ACADEMICS, DIPLOMATS OR HIGH-RANKING
VISITORS COULD ARRANGE FOR VISITS WITH MEMBERS OF THE
MAJLIS ASH-SHURA, BUT THAT HE EXPECTED THAT THERE WOULD
BE A WRITTEN POLICY IN THE FUTURE. HE SAID THAT THOSE
WISHING TO MEET WITH MAJLIS OFFICIALS NEEDED FOR THE
TIME BEING TO SUBMIT FORMAL DIPLOMATIC REQUESTS TO THE
FOREIGN MINISTRY WHICH WOULD THEN CONSULT WITH THE
COUNCIL PRESIDENT (I.E. BIN JUBAIR).


THE PEACE PROCESS: NUMBER ONE PRIORITY
--------------


10. INVITED TO COMMENT ON FOREIGN POLICY ISSUES, BIN
JUBAIR SAID THAT PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST WAS THE NUMBER
ONE PRIORITY AND THAT SAUDI ARABIA "HOPED, WANTED AND
EXPECTED" THAT U.S. PARTICIPATION IN THE PEACE PROCESS
WOULD BE "FAIR." HE FURTHER NOTED THAT HE AGREED WITH
U.S. PRESSURE ON NORTH KOREA TO LIMIT NUCLEAR WEAPONS
PROLIFERATION, BUT WONDERED WHY THE U.S. WAS NOT
PRESSURING ISRAEL AS WELL. HE ALSO EXPRESSED HIS
APPROVAL OF RECENT U.N. ACTIONS IN BOSNIA.


11. CHARGE SAID THAT THE U.S. IS WORKING HARD TO HELP
ACHIEVE PEACE IN THE REGION AND THAT IT IS UNLIKELY THAT
ONE COULD FIND A COUNTRY AS FAIR IN ITS EFFORTS. CHARGE
ALSO EXPLAINED THAT ISRAEL IS ONE OF THREE
NON-SIGNATORIES OF THE NPT. THE U.S. IS PRESSURING
NORTH KOREA BECAUSE IT SIGNED THE NPT AND THEN LIED
ABOUT THE NATURE OF ITS NUCLEAR ACTIVITIES. CHARGE
NOTED THAT UNIVERSALITY OF NPT ADHERENCE IS U.S. POLICY,
A POSITION THAT IS WELL KNOWN TO ISRAEL. FROM TIME TO
TIME, WE REITERATE OUR VIEWS ON THIS TO ISRAEL.

WHILE WAITING FOR RESULTS: NO DISTRACTIONS
--------------


13. COMMENT: BIN JUBAIR AND OTHER SAG OFFICIALS HAVE
TAKEN PAINS TO EXPLAIN TO US THAT THEY VIEW THE MAJLIS
ASH-SHURA AS A CONSULTATIVE, BUT NOT A DEMOCRATIC OR A
LEISLATIVE BODY. IT MAY BE THAT THE SAG HOPES THAT TE
DELIBERATIONS OF THIS BODY, GUIDED BY THE SAUD
LEADERSHIP, WILL INCREASE POPULAR SUPPORT FOR THE REGIME
AS IT ENTERS A PERIOD OF TOUGH FINANCIAL TIMES REQUIRING
TOUGH REFORMS. THE SAG MAY HAVE DECIDED THAT AS THE
MAJLIS ASH-SHURA FINDS ITS OWN WAY AND UNTIL IT HAS
ESTABLISHED SOME RECORD OF ACCOMPLISHMENT, THAT IT DOES
NOT WANT ITS MEMBERS DISTRACTED BY THE QUERIES OF
FOREIGN ACADEMICS, DIPLOMATS OR OFFICIALS PUSHING HIDDEN
(DEMOCRATIC) AGENDAS. WE WILL CONTINUE TO PUSH FOR
OFFICIAL ACCESS TO THE MEMBERS OF THE MAJLIS (WE DO MEET
MAJLIS MEMBERS UNOFFICIALLY FROM TIME TO TIME ALTHOUGH
THEY APPEAR TO BE UNDER SOME SORT OF GAG RULE).


14. IN CHARGE'S THIRD MEETING WITH HIM (OTHER MEETINGS
OCCURRED IN JANUARY AND JULY OF LAST YEAR),BIN JUBAIR
SEEMED RELAXED, CONFIDENT AND READY TO DISCUSS MAJLIS
AFFAIRS, IF ON HIS OWN TERMS. HE STRUCK US AS SOMEONE
WHO BELIEVES IN THE CERTAIN RELIABILITY OF HIS ISLAMIC
MORAL COMPASS AND WHO IS CONFIDENT THAT FOLLOWING IT
WILL LEAD TO THE REQUIRED SOLUTIONS. WITH THAT
CONFIDENCE BIN JUBAIR SEEMS BENT ON MOVING AT HIS OWN
DELIBERATE PACE ON WHAT HE SEES TO BE THE NECESSARY WORK
OF THE MAJLIS ASH-SHURA IN THE FACE OF WHATEVER
SKEPTICISM MAY EXIST INSIDE AND OUTSIDE THE KINGDOM.
END COMMENT.


WELCH