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(U) GOTTEMOELLER-NYKONENKO LUNCH, FEBRUARY 3, 2010 --

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SUBJECT: (U) GOTTEMOELLER-NYKONENKO LUNCH, FEBRUARY 3, 2010 --
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CLASSIFIED BY: Rose A. Gottemoeller, Assistant Secretary, Department
of State, VCI; REASON: 1.4(B),(D)

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SUBJECT: (U) GOTTEMOELLER-NYKONENKO LUNCH, FEBRUARY 3, 2010 --
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CLASSIFIED BY: Rose A. Gottemoeller, Assistant Secretary, Department
of State, VCI; REASON: 1.4(B),(D)

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SUMMARY

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1. (S) At a U.S.-hosted lunch on February 3 on the margins of the
START Follow-on negotiations in Geneva, Assistant Secretary
Gottemoeller met with the Ukrainian Director of Arms Control and
Military and Technical Cooperation, Ambassador Aleksandr Nykonenko.
Nykonenko inquired as to the progress of the START Follow-on
negotiations. He pressed for security assurances and noted
concerns in Ukraine regarding Russia's ambitions. Nykonenko asked
Gottemoeller's advice on a proposal by Ukraine to meet with the P5
members just prior to the kick-off of the Nuclear Security Summit
in April. Gottemoeller said the United States recognized the
important and positive role Ukraine continued to play in the
nonproliferation arena and asked about Ukraine's response at the
summit regarding its highly enriched uranium (HEU). Nykonenko
expressed his concern about the suspension of Conventional Armed
Forces in Europe Treaty (CFE). Gottemoeller took the opportunity
to inform him that the Secretary of State had just named Ambassador
Victoria Nuland as Special Envoy for CFE. Gottemoeller told
Nykonenko Washington was positive toward Ukraine moving in a sound
political and economic direction. End summary.




2. (S) SUBJECT SUMMARY: How Long Until it is Finished?; Ukraine's
Security Assurances-Top Priority; Nuclear Security Summit and
Ukraine; An Ambitious Russia; and Security Assurances Redux.



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HOW LONG UNTIL IT IS FINISHED?

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3. (S) At a U.S.-hosted lunch on February 3 on the margins of the
START Follow-on negotiations, Nykonenko inquired as to the progress

of the negotiations and when they might be finished. Gottemoeller
said that the negotiations had reconvened on February 1, after a
short strategic pause in January and that she was measuring the
time to complete the negotiations and sign the treaty in weeks, not
months. Nykonenko took the opportunity to offer Kyiv as a logical
location for the signing of the new treaty. There was already a
Washington Treaty and a Moscow Treaty. As Ukraine had contributed
to the process of reductions, it would send a very positive signal
to all to have such a ceremony in Kyiv. Gottemoeller thanked
Nykonenko for the offer and said she would reflect on it.



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UKRAINE'S SECURITY ASSURANCES--TOP PRIORITY

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4. (S) Nykonenko volunteered that he had met with Russian
Ambassador Antonov the day prior and had raised the issue of
security assurances. He reported that Antonov had been rather
reserved and said that were Russia to give new security assurances
to Ukraine it would confirm that a threat existed. Making the same
request of Gottemoeller, Nykonenko said that Ukraine needed such
security assurances since there was much concern with the actions
by the Russian Duma regarding the possible use of nuclear arms in
nearby countries. Gottemoeller said she had seen some press
accounts about Russia's new nuclear doctrine and asked Nykonenko
whether he had seen the document. Responding "yes, of course,"
Nykonenko moved on to statements in the Romanian press about
Ukraine stealing ethnic Romanian property and that Ukraine was not
really a state and should be managed by Russia. Gottemoeller noted
that Romania was a member state of NATO which could be expected to
respect other nations' territorial integrity. Nykonenko said he
understood, but that there was much concern in Ukraine that it was
dependent on others. Ukraine was looking for security assurances
to calm the tension. Gottemoeller asked whether NATO membership
had come up in the Presidential election. Nykonenko said that this
issue had been avoided. NATO was 5-8 years away.




5. (S) Gottemoeller noted that Russia had recently posted an
ambassador to Ukraine and that dialogue was beginning to open up.
This should be a good signal for Ukraine's leadership, she said.
Nykonenko said this was a positive step. He thanked Gottemoeller
for the December 4 U.S.-Russia Joint Statement on Ukraine's
participation in the successful implementation of START. He added
it was curious to some that the United States gave collective
assurances to NATO countries and Belarus and Kazakhstan received
assurances from Russia through the Confederation of Independent
States. Ukraine was not in a block and thus was vulnerable.




6. (S) Gottemoeller asserted that for the United States there was
no change in its security assurances to Ukraine. The United States
felt it important to reiterate the assurances by sending Vice
President Biden to deliver that same message in July 2009.
Additionally, there had been no difference between the United
States and Russia on this message. We had been very consistent,
she said. Gottemoeller underscored the important and positive role
in nonproliferation Ukraine had played and hoped Ukraine's policies
would remain the same. Nykonenko stated emphatically "yes," and
asserted that Ukraine and the United States were strategic
partners.



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NUCLEAR SECURITY SUMMIT AND UKRAINE

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7. (S) Nykonenko requested Gottemoeller's advice on a proposal his
foreign minster was considering regarding the Nuclear Security
Summit in Washington in April. Ukraine would like to meet with the
other Permanent Members of the United Nations Security Council


perhaps before the kick-off to the Summit on April 12 to discuss
security assurances. His foreign minister would be calling the
ambassadors of the P5 to explore this proposal. Gottemoeller asked
whether this would be a meeting of the Presidents. Nykonenko
demurred and said he was looking for ideas. Ukraine just wanted to
feel that it was not outside the nuclear group. Ukraine needed an
anchor for the next 5 to 10 years and was looking to the United
States for help to persuade Russia to temper its ambitions.



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AN AMBITIOUS RUSSIA

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8. (S) There were over a million Russian troops and pieces of
military equipment that were outside of treaty limitations with
Russia's suspension of the CFE Treaty, Nykonenko said. Ukraine was
in a new period of foreign policy. Given concerns about gas
supplies and economic issues along with CFE concerns, Ukraine was
dealing with an ambitious Russia.




9. (S) Gottemoeller took the opportunity to inform Nykonenko that
the Secretary of State had named Ambassador Victoria Nuland as
Special Envoy for Conventional Armed Forces in Europe on February

2. Nuland's focus would be on conventional arms control in Europe
and these issues should certainly be raised with her. Nykonenko
asked whether Gottemoeller had held any consultations with Russia
on the CFE issue. Gottemoeller said that most of her time had been
focused on completing the negotiations for the START Follow-on
treaty and that the CFE talks had been on hold. With Ambassador
Nuland's appointment these discussions should begin anew.



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SECURITY ASSURANCES REDUX

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10. (S) Nykonenko returned to the issue of security assurances,
saying that Ukraine would like to be invited to a round of
negotiations on the issue involving also the United States and
Russia. Ukraine had a big border with Russia, over 2000
kilometers, and was feeling unprotected. A trilateral statement
among the United States, Russia, and Ukraine on security assurances
would be understood by everyone and would send a positive signal.
It would help to ease the tensions created by statements coming out
of Romania. Gottemoeller reminded Nykonenko of the December 4,
2009, U.S.- Russian Joint Statement confirming the U.S. and Russian
assurances recorded in the Budapest Summit Memorandum. Nykonenko
said that maybe there needed to be another summit. Gottemoeller
suggested that there were many opportunities for Ukraine to hold
security dialogues. Ukraine's upcoming Presidential inaugural
would be an excellent opportunity. Ukraine's participation in the
Partnership for Peace was another excellent venue. Nykonenko said


that Ukraine had tried to participate with the British in working
on a repair contract for helicopters, but its participation was
blocked by the Czech Republic because of Russia's influence. There
were many consequences of Russia's influence. Russia is very
sensitive to Ukraine's desire to participate with other countries.
When Ukraine feels dependent on others it is painful and indicative
of a lack of security. Ukraine is looking for leverage to equalize
its position vis a vis Russia, Romania and NATO. Ukraine is a big
country, he concluded.




11. (S) Gottemoeller said that Washington was very energized and
positive about working toward sound political and economic
cooperation with Ukraine. Washington was looking to understand
what Ukraine needed and wanted in a reenergized relationship.
Gottemoeller reiterated that the existing security assurances were
consistent with this approach. The United States and Ukraine had a
relationship along several trajectories, NATO, bilateral, and the
security dialogue in November. There were many ways to pursue
opportunities and to build understanding. Nykonenko asked when
Ukraine could expect a response to its letter of November to
President Obama. Gottemoeller said that she was aware that a
response was being prepared and that she would inquire as to its
status.




12. (S) Gottemoeller inquired as to what Ukraine's response was
likely to be at the Nuclear Security Summit regarding its HEU,
noting that Ukraine had been deliberating for some time on the
issue. Nykonenko said that a decision would be taken by the new
President; however, there would likely not be a statement about
withdrawal of the HEU. Ukraine was ready to start the withdrawal
at the Kyiv Institute, but the problem was financing. Russia was
asking for one million USD to assist in the withdrawal process.
There would be meeting with Acting Assistant Secretary Vann Van
Diepen in March and Ukraine would be seeking U.S. assistance. Such
help would again be a good signal. Ukraine would be ready to work
on the spent fuel problem, which would be a positive step.




13. (S) Nykonenko thanked Gottemoeller for the opportunity to
discuss his concerns and invited Gottemoeller to visit Kyiv.
Gottemoeller thanked Nykonenko and offered that she was keen to
come to Kyiv, saying she would consider it as soon as possible.




14. (S) Gottemoeller sends.
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