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S E C R E T GENEVA 000197
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 2020/02/27
TAGS: PARM KACT MARR PREL RS US
SUBJECT: (SFO-GVA-VIII): (U) Inspection Protocol Working Group
Meeting, February 25, 2010
CLASSIFIED BY: Rose E. Gottemoeller, Assistant Secretary, Department
of State, VCI; REASON: 1.4(B),(D)
S E C R E T GENEVA 000197
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 2020/02/27
TAGS: PARM KACT MARR PREL RS US
SUBJECT: (SFO-GVA-VIII): (U) Inspection Protocol Working Group
Meeting, February 25, 2010
CLASSIFIED BY: Rose E. Gottemoeller, Assistant Secretary, Department
of State, VCI; REASON: 1.4(B),(D)
1. (U) This is SFO-GVA-VIII-085
2. (U) Meeting Date: February 25, 2010
Time: 3:30 P.M. - 6:00 P.M.
Place: U.S. Mission, Geneva
--------------
SUMMARY
--------------
3. (S) At the Inspection Protocol Working Group (IPWG) meeting
chaired by Dr. Warner and Colonel Ilin on February 25, the sides
continued their work on Section VII, covering paragraphs 1 through
4. Warner provided Ilin with a copy of an updated U.S.-proposed
Joint Draft text for Section VII (Type-2 Inspections). Discussion
followed on the differing interpretations regarding Type-2
inspections at Votkinsk and Piban'shur.
4. (U) Subject Summary: Another Visit to Paragraph 1; Proposals
on Piban'shur; Modifications Ensue to Paragraph 2.
--------------
ANOTHER VISIT TO PARAGRAPH 1
--------------
5. (S) Ilin opened by proposing the two sides continue discussion
of Section VII (Type-2 Inspections),starting with paragraph 1.
Warner provided Ilin with the Russian and English versions of an
updated U.S.-proposed Joint Draft Text for Section VII (Type-2
Inspections). Ilin agreed with the principles outlined in the U.S.
text added to paragraph 1, with a few minor modifications. He
requested that the term "also" remain in brackets, as Russia and
the United States still had differing interpretations as to the
scope and scale of Type-2 inspections at conversion or elimination
facilities. Warner agreed to look at the reference to Part Four on
notifications to see if it was indeed needed in this paragraph.
The new text ran as follows:
Begin text:
"1. Each Party shall have the right to conduct Type-Two
inspections at ICBM loading facilities; SLBM loading facilities;
storage facilities for ICBMs, SLBMs, and mobile launchers of ICBMs;
repair facilities for ICBMs, SLBMs, and mobile launchers of ICBMs;
test ranges; training facilities; and conversion or elimination
facilities for deployed heavy bombers. The purpose of such
inspections shall be to confirm the accuracy of declared technical
characteristics and data specified for such facilities, on the
numbers and types of non-deployed ICBMs and non-deployed SLBMs,
first stages of ICBMs and SLBMs, non-deployed ICBM launchers, and
deployed heavy bombers. For conversion or elimination facilities
which contain eliminated ICBMs, eliminated SLBMs, eliminated mobile
launchers of ICBMs, or converted heavy bombers equipped for
E
non-nuclear armaments that are subject to inspection in accordance
with the provisions of Part Three of this Protocol [and
notifications provided for in Part Four of this Protocol]1, the
purpose of such inspections shall [also]1 be to confirm, as
applicable, the results of conversion or elimination of such
items."
End Text.
-------------- --------------
PROPOSALS ON PIBAN'SHUR
-------------- --------------
6. (S) A lengthy discussion followed outlining the differences in
the U.S. and Russian interpretations of a Type-2 inspection at a
conversion or elimination facility, specifically Votkinsk and
Piban'shur. Ilin stated his view that these inspections should not
interfere with the technical elimination processes underway and
pointed out that the site diagrams of these two facilities would
likely be adjusted so that this would not occur. These revisions
would remove buildings where this elimination work would be
underway, reassigning these buildings to other facilities not
subject to inspection or simply omitting them from the site
diagram. He mentioned that no non-deployed ICBMs, excepting those
already eliminated, would be present at the Votkinsk CorE Facility
as all work prior to elimination would be done at the Votkinsk
Production facility.
7. (S) Ilin did state that mobile launchers awaiting elimination
could be present at the Piban'shur CorE facility. Seizing on this
distinction, Warner stated that these items "in the pipeline" would
be subject to inspection. Ilin countered with what he saw as a
compromise, offering that the site diagrams could be redrawn, with
all mobile launchers awaiting elimination located at the Piban'shur
Storage Facility which is subject to separate Type-2 inspections,
and all those having undergone elimination being located at the
Piban'shur CorE Facility.
--------------
MODIFICATIONS ENSUE TO PARAGRAPH 2
--------------
8. (S) Ilin agreed to delete the Russian proposed subparagraph
2(d),as the U.S. had incorporated this idea into subparagraph
2(a). Ilin stated that he would have the Russian translators
review the final language to make sure everything was in agreement
following this merge.
9. (S) Ilin and Warner agreed to modify the language in
subparagraph 2(b) in an effort to combine the Russian and U.S.
proposed language. The Russian text on confirming the reconversion
of converted SLBM launchers remained in brackets. Following the
revisions, text read as follows:
Begin text:
"(b) designated ICBM bases and submarine bases, in the event that
eliminated silo launchers of ICBMs or converted SLBM launchers
installed on submarines located at such bases are subject to
inspection in accordance with the provisions of Part Three of this
Protocol. The purpose of such inspections shall be to confirm that
such launchers have been eliminated or converted, the elimination
of silo launchers of ICBMs or the conversion of specified SLBM
launchers in accordance with Part Three of this Protocol [, or to
confirm that the converted SLBM launchers were not reconverted and
are incapable of launching SLBMs]2. During such inspections, no
other items or portions of such ICBM bases and submarine bases
shall be subject to inspection."
End text.
10. (S) Following a short discussion, the sides agreed to keep the
Russian-proposed subparagraph 2(c),referencing the scope and scale
of inspections at Votkinsk and Piban'shur, in brackets. Regarding
the Russian-proposed subparagraph 2(e),on inspections to confirm
that silo launchers of ICBMs converted to launchers of anti-missile
defense systems have not been reconverted, Warner argued that this
would be dealt with in the Agreed Statement being negotiated
regarding the converted ICBM launchers at Vandenberg AFB, and the
text remained in brackets. Ilin agreed to rewrite the language so
that Vandenberg Air Force Base would be specified in this
subparagraph.
11. (U) Documents provided:
- United States:
-- U.S.-Proposed Joint Draft Text of Section VII (Type-2
Inspections),dated February 25, 2010.
12. (U) Participants:
UNITED STATES
Dr. Warner
Mr. Albertson (RO)
Mr. Buttrick
Mr. Rust
Mr. Taylor
Mr. Smith
Ms. Gross (Int)
RUSSIA
Col Ilin
Mr. Izrazov
Ms. Vodopolova
Col Zaitsev
Ms. Polyntseva (Int)
13. (U) Gottemoeller sends.
KING
SIPDIS
E.O. 12958: DECL: 2020/02/27
TAGS: PARM KACT MARR PREL RS US
SUBJECT: (SFO-GVA-VIII): (U) Inspection Protocol Working Group
Meeting, February 25, 2010
CLASSIFIED BY: Rose E. Gottemoeller, Assistant Secretary, Department
of State, VCI; REASON: 1.4(B),(D)
1. (U) This is SFO-GVA-VIII-085
2. (U) Meeting Date: February 25, 2010
Time: 3:30 P.M. - 6:00 P.M.
Place: U.S. Mission, Geneva
--------------
SUMMARY
--------------
3. (S) At the Inspection Protocol Working Group (IPWG) meeting
chaired by Dr. Warner and Colonel Ilin on February 25, the sides
continued their work on Section VII, covering paragraphs 1 through
4. Warner provided Ilin with a copy of an updated U.S.-proposed
Joint Draft text for Section VII (Type-2 Inspections). Discussion
followed on the differing interpretations regarding Type-2
inspections at Votkinsk and Piban'shur.
4. (U) Subject Summary: Another Visit to Paragraph 1; Proposals
on Piban'shur; Modifications Ensue to Paragraph 2.
--------------
ANOTHER VISIT TO PARAGRAPH 1
--------------
5. (S) Ilin opened by proposing the two sides continue discussion
of Section VII (Type-2 Inspections),starting with paragraph 1.
Warner provided Ilin with the Russian and English versions of an
updated U.S.-proposed Joint Draft Text for Section VII (Type-2
Inspections). Ilin agreed with the principles outlined in the U.S.
text added to paragraph 1, with a few minor modifications. He
requested that the term "also" remain in brackets, as Russia and
the United States still had differing interpretations as to the
scope and scale of Type-2 inspections at conversion or elimination
facilities. Warner agreed to look at the reference to Part Four on
notifications to see if it was indeed needed in this paragraph.
The new text ran as follows:
Begin text:
"1. Each Party shall have the right to conduct Type-Two
inspections at ICBM loading facilities; SLBM loading facilities;
storage facilities for ICBMs, SLBMs, and mobile launchers of ICBMs;
repair facilities for ICBMs, SLBMs, and mobile launchers of ICBMs;
test ranges; training facilities; and conversion or elimination
facilities for deployed heavy bombers. The purpose of such
inspections shall be to confirm the accuracy of declared technical
characteristics and data specified for such facilities, on the
numbers and types of non-deployed ICBMs and non-deployed SLBMs,
first stages of ICBMs and SLBMs, non-deployed ICBM launchers, and
deployed heavy bombers. For conversion or elimination facilities
which contain eliminated ICBMs, eliminated SLBMs, eliminated mobile
launchers of ICBMs, or converted heavy bombers equipped for
E
non-nuclear armaments that are subject to inspection in accordance
with the provisions of Part Three of this Protocol [and
notifications provided for in Part Four of this Protocol]1, the
purpose of such inspections shall [also]1 be to confirm, as
applicable, the results of conversion or elimination of such
items."
End Text.
-------------- --------------
PROPOSALS ON PIBAN'SHUR
-------------- --------------
6. (S) A lengthy discussion followed outlining the differences in
the U.S. and Russian interpretations of a Type-2 inspection at a
conversion or elimination facility, specifically Votkinsk and
Piban'shur. Ilin stated his view that these inspections should not
interfere with the technical elimination processes underway and
pointed out that the site diagrams of these two facilities would
likely be adjusted so that this would not occur. These revisions
would remove buildings where this elimination work would be
underway, reassigning these buildings to other facilities not
subject to inspection or simply omitting them from the site
diagram. He mentioned that no non-deployed ICBMs, excepting those
already eliminated, would be present at the Votkinsk CorE Facility
as all work prior to elimination would be done at the Votkinsk
Production facility.
7. (S) Ilin did state that mobile launchers awaiting elimination
could be present at the Piban'shur CorE facility. Seizing on this
distinction, Warner stated that these items "in the pipeline" would
be subject to inspection. Ilin countered with what he saw as a
compromise, offering that the site diagrams could be redrawn, with
all mobile launchers awaiting elimination located at the Piban'shur
Storage Facility which is subject to separate Type-2 inspections,
and all those having undergone elimination being located at the
Piban'shur CorE Facility.
--------------
MODIFICATIONS ENSUE TO PARAGRAPH 2
--------------
8. (S) Ilin agreed to delete the Russian proposed subparagraph
2(d),as the U.S. had incorporated this idea into subparagraph
2(a). Ilin stated that he would have the Russian translators
review the final language to make sure everything was in agreement
following this merge.
9. (S) Ilin and Warner agreed to modify the language in
subparagraph 2(b) in an effort to combine the Russian and U.S.
proposed language. The Russian text on confirming the reconversion
of converted SLBM launchers remained in brackets. Following the
revisions, text read as follows:
Begin text:
"(b) designated ICBM bases and submarine bases, in the event that
eliminated silo launchers of ICBMs or converted SLBM launchers
installed on submarines located at such bases are subject to
inspection in accordance with the provisions of Part Three of this
Protocol. The purpose of such inspections shall be to confirm that
such launchers have been eliminated or converted, the elimination
of silo launchers of ICBMs or the conversion of specified SLBM
launchers in accordance with Part Three of this Protocol [, or to
confirm that the converted SLBM launchers were not reconverted and
are incapable of launching SLBMs]2. During such inspections, no
other items or portions of such ICBM bases and submarine bases
shall be subject to inspection."
End text.
10. (S) Following a short discussion, the sides agreed to keep the
Russian-proposed subparagraph 2(c),referencing the scope and scale
of inspections at Votkinsk and Piban'shur, in brackets. Regarding
the Russian-proposed subparagraph 2(e),on inspections to confirm
that silo launchers of ICBMs converted to launchers of anti-missile
defense systems have not been reconverted, Warner argued that this
would be dealt with in the Agreed Statement being negotiated
regarding the converted ICBM launchers at Vandenberg AFB, and the
text remained in brackets. Ilin agreed to rewrite the language so
that Vandenberg Air Force Base would be specified in this
subparagraph.
11. (U) Documents provided:
- United States:
-- U.S.-Proposed Joint Draft Text of Section VII (Type-2
Inspections),dated February 25, 2010.
12. (U) Participants:
UNITED STATES
Dr. Warner
Mr. Albertson (RO)
Mr. Buttrick
Mr. Rust
Mr. Taylor
Mr. Smith
Ms. Gross (Int)
RUSSIA
Col Ilin
Mr. Izrazov
Ms. Vodopolova
Col Zaitsev
Ms. Polyntseva (Int)
13. (U) Gottemoeller sends.
KING