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10ATHENS137
2010-02-25 13:43:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Athens
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GREECE: VIEWS ON EU CHINA ARMS EMBARGO

Tags:  PREL PARM CH EUN GR 
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 2020/02/25
TAGS: PREL PARM CH EUN GR
SUBJECT: GREECE: VIEWS ON EU CHINA ARMS EMBARGO

REF: STATE 13969

CLASSIFIED BY: Deborah A. McCarthy, Deputy Chief of Mission; REASON:
1.4(B),(D)

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DEPT FOR EUR/ERA, EAP/CM, PM/RSAT, AND ISN/RA
AMEMBASSY ATHENS PASS TO AMCONSUL THESSALONIKI
AMEMBASSY BERLIN PASS TO AMCONSUL DUSSELDORF
AMEMBASSY BERLIN PASS TO AMCONSUL LEIPZIG

E.O. 12958: DECL: 2020/02/25
TAGS: PREL PARM CH EUN GR
SUBJECT: GREECE: VIEWS ON EU CHINA ARMS EMBARGO

REF: STATE 13969

CLASSIFIED BY: Deborah A. McCarthy, Deputy Chief of Mission; REASON:
1.4(B),(D)


1. (C) SUMMARY. Greek interlocutors conveyed that a review or a
possible lifting of the European Union's China arms embargo is not
on the agenda in Brussels, to the best of their knowledge. They
stated that since the replacement of the EU's political "Code of
Conduct on Arms Exports" in December 2008 by the legally binding
Council Common Position 944, the issue had been dormant. They were
unaware of recent Spanish comments, and puzzled to learn of them.
While they stated that Greece is less skeptical of lifting the
embargo now as compared to 2004, they stated that Greece does not
have strong views either way. They pointed out then-President
Chirac's leading role in the 2004 effort to lift the embargo, and
noted that cooler French-Chinese relations under President Sarkozy
would likely temper the French position and make things tougher
should Spain make any overtures in Brussels. END SUMMARY.




2. (C) Pol-Mil Chief delivered reftel points February 23 to the
MFA's Common Security and Defense Policy European Correspondent
Alexandros Ioannidis (who coordinates Foreign Affairs Council
preparation and accompanies the Minister to Brussels monthly) and
MFA Disarmament Sub-Section Head Loukas Tsokos, who has primary
responsibility for developing Greek weapons export policy. They
had been unaware of recent Spanish comments, and puzzled to learn
of them. The last they had heard of the issue had been in December
2008 at the end of the French EU Presidency, when the EU Council
had adopted the legally binding Council Common Position 944,
replacing the political "Code of Conduct on Arms Exports." At that
time, France and other nations had wanted to formally link the
adoption of CCP 944 to the prospect of re-starting discussion on
lifting the embargo. The consensus position was not to make a
formal linkage, but to agree that at a "certain point," the EU
would re-examine the embargo in light of this new legally binding
common position.




3. (C) In response to a question, Tsokos replied that although
Greece has no strong views on the issue, it would likely view a
lifting of the arms embargo with less skepticism today as compared
to its 2004 position. He noted that the EU's "one China" policy,
which does not recognize Taiwan, means that Greece cannot sell
equipment to Taiwan; while Taiwan has never requested weaponry,
Greece has refused in a few instances to export equipment under
these rules. Ioannidis questioned the significance of this issue
to U.S. policymakers. PolMil Chief stressed the importance to our
strategic interests in the Pacific, reminded him of the rancor this
issue brought to U.S.-European relations in 2004, and highlighted
the U.S.-EU strategic dialogue on Asia as the place to continue
discussions on security and stability in East Asia.




4. (C) Discussing the role of personalities in the 2004 debate of
lifting the Embargo, Ioannidis and Tsokos expressed the sense that
China was not as high a priority for Europe now as it was then.
They also pointed to the activist role played by then French
President Chirac, and contrasted his views with those of President
Sarkozy. Our interlocutors believed that France-China relations
were not at their best, and that this could make things more
difficult for Spain in Brussels should Spain ultimately seek to
make any moves on the embargo issue.
SPECKHARD