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09NICOSIA471
2009-07-20 08:53:00
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Embassy Nicosia
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CYPRUS: TURKISH CYPRIOTS GENERALLY UPBEAT IN

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 04 NICOSIA 000471 

SIPDIS

DEPT FOR EUR/SE, IO/UNP

E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/09/2019
TAGS: PREL PGOV UNFIYCP TR CY
SUBJECT: CYPRUS: TURKISH CYPRIOTS GENERALLY UPBEAT IN
MEETINGS WITH DAS BRYZA

REF: A. NICOSIA 402

B. NICOSIA 438

C. NICOSIA 456

D. NICOSIA 457

NICOSIA 00000471 001.3 OF 004


Classified By: Ambassador Frank C. Urbancic for reasons 1.4(b) and 1.4(
d)

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 04 NICOSIA 000471

SIPDIS

DEPT FOR EUR/SE, IO/UNP

E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/09/2019
TAGS: PREL PGOV UNFIYCP TR CY
SUBJECT: CYPRUS: TURKISH CYPRIOTS GENERALLY UPBEAT IN
MEETINGS WITH DAS BRYZA

REF: A. NICOSIA 402

B. NICOSIA 438

C. NICOSIA 456

D. NICOSIA 457

NICOSIA 00000471 001.3 OF 004


Classified By: Ambassador Frank C. Urbancic for reasons 1.4(b) and 1.4(
d)


1. (C) Summary: Like their Greek Cypriot (G/C) counterparts,
Turkish Cypriots voiced optimism regarding the UN-brokered
peace process, muted by a cognizance of the magnitude of the
task ahead and serious divergences between the sides, in
discussions with EUR DAS Matthew Bryza during his June 29-30
visit. Turkish Cypriot (T/C) leader Mehmet Ali Talat
reaffirmed his adherence to the "federal" basis of the
present process and bluntly stated that "he was not seeking a
confederation." He voiced concern that G/C leader Demetris
Christofias, not willing to risk his popularity, might shy
away from the tough, painful decisions needed to reach a
compromise. Talat believed that issues of territory and
property would prove the biggest sticking point going
forward, not the Turkish military. Talat also said that
arbitration would be unavoidable but, unlike the Annan Plan,
could be reduced to a minimal level. He also sought the
appointment of a US Envoy for Cyprus. T/C lead negotiator
Ozdil Nami was ebullient, both about the June 26 deal to open
the Limnitis/Yesilirmak crossing point and concerning the
recent visit of EU Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso,
who, Nami argued, laid down a December 2009 marker as a
realistic finish for negotiations. Nami, while supporting the
federal framework of the new state, noted that "it is not
written anywhere that the average citizen has to feel that he
is in a federation." He also gave a tour d'horizon of the
negotiating chapters covered. "TRNC Prime Minister" and
nationalist National Unity Party Leader Dervish Eroglu voiced
support for Talat and the process, but stressed that the T/Cs
were not "obligated" to reunite and complained of Greek
Cypriot bad faith and intransigence. For his part DAS Bryza
applauded the progress achieved to date, urged the need for
flexibility and compromise, and said the USG was ready to
assist should the sides request help. End Summary.

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Talat: "Not seeking a confederation!"
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2. (C) In response to DAS Bryza's relating of G/C unease,
Talat bluntly stated, "We are not seeking a confederation."
He noted that he had already agreed with Christofias to a
single, indivisible sovereignty, single citizenship, and
single international personality, all hall marks of a
federation, not a confederation. Thus, even if a majority of
the competencies were allocated to the constituent states, by
definition the new state would not be confederal for the
aforementioned reasons. Talat, however, said that if the G/Cs
accepted a 4/3 ratio of representation in federal bodies,
then the Turkish Cypriots would concede more competencies,
such as health, agriculture and fisheries.


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opposite.

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Talat: Christofias wants "backing of all"
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4. (C) Talat, in response to Bryza's query, said that
Christofias was limited in his flexibility because of his
penchant to maintain widespread backing, including of his
restive, solution-skeptical coalition partners EDEK and DIKO.
He added that Christofias indeed wants a solution, but might
not be able to "manage it" unless he mustered the courage to
take the tough choices that might endanger his "85%
popularity." Talat also said that Christofias was unduly
influenced by the sensationalist, largely anti-solution G/C

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press.

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Talat: Need arbitration for the "final step"
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5. (C) Talat said that despite convergence in many areas, it
would be near impossible to ink a deal without arbitration,
which Christofias vehemently opposed. "Without arbitration,
we will not be able to take the final step," Talat argued. He
said that the G/Cs were fixated on the Annan Plan, where the
Greek Cypriots at Burgenstock refused to negotiate, making
the role of UN arbitration ("splitting the difference") that
much more important. This time, however, the sides were
negotiating in good faith; thus, the need for arbitration
would be minimal, and only come at the very end. Talat,
however, was quick to point out that he did not want EU
arbitration, but preferred the US or the UN. To that end, he
asked for the appointment of a US Special Envoy in response
to DAS Bryza's question regarding possible US contributions
to the process. Bryza said that the USG was considering the
appointment of an envoy but had made not a final decision.


6. (C) Regarding the timing of a solution, Talat expressed
concern that the clock was running out, especially with
Turkey's EU Accession report card and the Ankara Protocol
Implementation review looming at the end of 2009. In an break
from his past line, however, Talat said that if T/C public
support could once again be mobilized, then his time line for
a solution, which is fMw beT $n2eLdr/`ePt9 aLd
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not ask" about the origin of other (G/C) funds as long as
they went through UNDP. Nami warned, however, that the
Limnitis/Yesilirmak opening should remain a one-off CBM to
avoid "straying" from the main negotiations.

8.(C) Nami was equally pleased by public and private message
of EU Commission President Jose Manuel Barroso to "finish the
talks by the end of 2009" during his June 25 visit to the
island (Note: In a June 25 speech before the Cypriot
Parliament, Barroso said that 2009 "should be the right
moment to achieve a settlement." End Note). Privately, Nami
said Barroso told Christofias and Talat at a lunch in the
buffer zone, attended also by Nami and G/C negotiator George
Iacovou, that the present process "could not be repeated" and
that the EU would accommodate "whatever the sides agree on."
Barosso also, Nami said, pledged to try to be "equidistant"
between the sides despite the RoC's EU membership.

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Nami: "Not written you have to feel you are in a federation"
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9. (C) Nami reaffirmed his strong support for the federal
parameters of the present UN-brokered process, but in
response to DAS Bryza's question regarding G/C charges of
confederal tendencies, he rhetorically quipped, "Where is it
written that the average citizen has to feel he is in a
federation?" Nami then gave a brief synopsis of the work
done to date on five of the six negotiating chapters. His
accounting is, in places (EU Affairs and the Economy, for
example),far more optimistic than the one Iacovou gave Bryza
per Ref C.

--Governance: All resolved but for election of the president
(T/Cs want communal voting while G/Cs demand a single ticket)
and representation in the lower house (T/Cs want 1/3 of the
seats and a requirement to secure 1/4 of Turkish seats to
forward legislation to the Senate, while G/Cs will agree to

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only 1/4 of the seats and simple majority to send legislation
to the upper house);

--Property: Inability to draft joint paper due to
"categorical" G/C position that original owner has right of
first refusal, "full stop." (Note: T/Cs want a mixed property
regime of exchange, retur., afD #nepe*baTa-n Tgb% det!b-ifedQQQ@i a b)cMm)tfAl
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T`E #nfQd)dqEf0 3Tatd;QQQ
-,Per2h4Mry* IfAb)liTq dodpa"d Hg)np; financial cost of plan;

--Security and Guarantees: Cannot discuss guarantees at this
stage, but can tackle other issues like federal police, for
example. Need to work out format, including determining when
the guarantor powers will enter the negotiations (Note: The
sides started their discussion of this chapter on July 9. End
Note).

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Nami: Going Forward
--------------


10. (C) Going forward, Nami urged the US and other countries
to encourage Christofias, much as Barroso did, to try to
finish the negotiations by the end of 2009. "More people need
to warn the G/Cs about 'natural calendars,'" he added. He
also thought that an off-island CYPROB conference, possibly
at a prestigious university like Harvard, might provide a
non-threatening forum for Greek Cypriots to brainstorm about
bridging proposals and discuss "day after" scenarios in terms
of financing, for example. Finally, Nami made a plea that an
off-shore gas deal, signed between the RoC and Noble Energy,
a US-based company, be "put on hold" so as not to damage the
negotiations since, he argued, natural resources are a
federal competency that the G/Cs should not "usurp"
unilaterally.


11. (C) For his part, DAS Bryza said that the USG would
continue to keep a close eye on the process but, before doing
anything, such as appointing an envoy, we would consult with
both parties and the UN so as to "do no harm." He noted that
every day that passes without a solution hurts the interests
of everyone, whether Cyprus (the continued division of
island) or Turkey (gumming up its EU Accession Bid).
Regarding off-shore hydrocarbon exploration, Bryza said that
while he could understand Nami's concern not to damage the
process, the USG would protect the interests of any US
company and its legal right to conclude private business
deals.

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Eroglu: Solution Desired, Not Obligatory
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12. (C) "TRNC PM" and nationalist UBP-leader Dervish Eroglu
stated his support for the ongoing negotiation process, "in
spite of any rumors to the contrary." Admitting that the
sides have reached real achievements, Eroglu nevertheless
stressed continued G/C intransigence inspired by a desire to
wring concessions out of Turkey in the run-up to its end-2009
EU Accession Progress Report. Eroglu stressed that while
Turkey may seek EU membership, it certainly has other
options*just like the Turkish Cypriots, who are not
obligated to reunite with the Greek Cypriots. Eroglu also
suggested that the US, as a way to pressure the Greek
Cypriots revisit UNSCR 550 (1984) calling on all states not
to recognize the "TRNC."


13. (C) Touching on the economic situation, Eroglu noted that
problems exist, primarily due to excessive commitments made
by the previous "government," especially regarding spending

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for public sector wages and social transfer payments.
According to Eroglu, the "TRNC" is currently running a 470
million TL (USD 305 million) deficit, but this will be
reduced by a combination of spending cuts and Turkish aid;
following Eroglu,s recent trip to Ankara, a "plan" has been
put in place through which Turkey will provide emergency aid
and Turkish Cypriot authorities will cut spending.


14. (C) Bryza responded that any heavy-handed tactics would
backfire; rather, the USG had to impress upon the Greek
Cypriots that every day without a solution complicates the
ultimate reunification of the island. If the present
negotiation process ends, Bryza said, Turkey will not get in
to the EU, and this, in turn, would remove Turkey,s greatest
incentive for a solution. Conversely, Bryza pointed out that
a Cyprus breakthrough could also energize the accession
process.









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