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2009-04-06 06:43:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Kinshasa
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DCM AND DATT MEET WITH BELGIAN COUNTERPARTS TO

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/03/2019
TAGS: PREL PHUM PGOV MARR MOPS SOCI MNUC BE CG
SUBJECT: DCM AND DATT MEET WITH BELGIAN COUNTERPARTS TO
DISCUSS INCREASED COOPERATION ON MILITARY REFORM

REF: A. (A) KINSHASA 285

B. (B) USDEL SECTO 3202341

C. (C) BRUSSELS 455

Classified By: Ambassador William J. Garvelink for reasons
1.4 (b) and (d)

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 KINSHASA 000321

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/03/2019
TAGS: PREL PHUM PGOV MARR MOPS SOCI MNUC BE CG
SUBJECT: DCM AND DATT MEET WITH BELGIAN COUNTERPARTS TO
DISCUSS INCREASED COOPERATION ON MILITARY REFORM

REF: A. (A) KINSHASA 285

B. (B) USDEL SECTO 3202341

C. (C) BRUSSELS 455

Classified By: Ambassador William J. Garvelink for reasons
1.4 (b) and (d)


1. (SBU) Summary: Deputy Chief of Mission and Defense
Attache met March 31 with Belgian counterparts to discuss
possible U.S.-Belgian cooperation on Security Sector Reform
(SSR) as mentioned ref (A). Belgians were receptive to idea
of working more closely with the U.S. to advance military
aspects of the SSR agenda. They also agreed to join DCM and
DATT in organizing, for the latter half of April, the first
of a monthly series of meetings of DCM's and DATT's from
major donor countries, including South Africa, Angola and
China, that would hopefully become a mechanism to coordinate
donor efforts and maintain focus on SSR objectives. We would
appreciate Washington's (DOS and DOD) and AFRICOM's views on
how to reinforce this initiative in other arenas (e.g.,
military-to-military gatherings under the aegis of AFRICOM;
the Great Lakes Support Group; etc.). End summary.


2. (C) Per ref (A) DCM and DATT met with their Belgian
counterparts, Charles Delogne and Col. Frank Werbrouk,
respectively, to discuss increased U.S.-Belgian cooperation
in the DRC on Security Sector Reform, specifically in the
area of military reform. DCM began by referring to recent
meetings in Kinshasa between the U.S. and EU mission (ref A)
on March 18; in Brussels between Secretary Clinton and
Foreign Minister DeGucht (ref B) on March 6; and also in
Brussels between AFRICOM's DCMA Yates and representatives of
Belgian civil society and parliament (ref C) on March 12.
Delogne and Werbrouk stated that they were only vaguely aware
of these meetings.


3. (C) The Belgians' initial reaction to the idea of working
more closely together was positive. After DATT reviewed

ongoing U.S. efforts to establish a U.S. program to train a
Congolese Rapid Reaction Force(RRF) in Kisangani, Werbrouk
noted that the U.S. had a "growing role" to play in helping
the Congolese armed forces (FARDC) to make important reforms.
In discussing the kinds of military cooperation to be
considered he rejected the notion of "new projects" -- there
were plenty of old projects. Instead, he called for regular
consultation, and a willingness to strengthen each country's
ongoing programs. He enthusiastically offered to work with
senior Belgian military officials to see if the Belgians'
C-130 aircraft, used on a permanent basis to assist the
Belgians with their own military programs, could also be used
to help the U.S. with logistical support to the RRF trainers
in Kisangani. He made clear, however, that he could not
guarantee that the C-130 would be made available. He also
suggested imbedding one or more Belgian trainers with the
U.S. training team and reviving the idea of imbedding an
American in theirs, ideas which we would welcome.


4. (C) DCM Delogne was less enthusiastic than his
counterpart. In expressing (mild) support for the idea, he
noted that Belgium was greatly overextended in the DRC in
almost all areas of cooperation it was working on. He
lamented that the Congolese expected too much of Belgium and
that his country simply did not have the resources to
successfully undertake so many projects. He also called for
a lower Belgian profile in the Congo. If the Americans could
fill the breach as Belgium's profile diminished somewhat, he
seemed to imply, that would be a good thing. (Note: Delogne
is an old DRC hand and is clearly Congo-fatigued. He rotates
out this summer after four years in Kinshasa in what has been
a tumultuous time in DRC-Belgian relations. His mind was
clearly elsewhere during the conversation and he mentioned
that by Friday he would have word on his next assignment.
End note.)


5. (C) U.S. DCM stated that one idea that might be tried to
intensify donor cooperation and coordination would be regular
meetings between donors at the DCM and DATT level to ensure

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political buy in as well as military expertise. He asked
Belgians for their views on who should be invited to these
meetings, noting that we were favorably disposed to inviting
not just the EU, but also the other big three non-Western
players: South Africa, Angola, and China. Our interlocutors
said they supported the idea of such meetings and agreed
fully that Angola, South Africa and China should be invited.
They also agreed to help us organize the first meeting, which
could be held the third or fourth week of April. To hold the
meeting sooner, all concurred, would risk a low turn-out as
many diplomats in Kinshasa will leave post for the Easter
holidays. We also agreed to get together again before the
first meeting to put together an agenda for the first
DCM/DATT military assistance donors meeting. Agenda items
might include: developing a comprehensive catalogue of who
is doing what; the utility of the GDRC's current plan
("feuille de route") for SSR as a working document for
military reform; how best to engage with the GDRC, particular
the MOD and the FARDC on military reform; international
community support for aspects of SSR outside the strict
purview of military issues (e.g., police reform and
strengthening the judiciary).


6. (C) Comment: The Belgians' reaction to our opening
remarks suggests that their superiors in Brussels had not
instructed them to discuss increased cooperation with us.
That notwithstanding, they appear to be willing to go along
with our initiative. The Belgians are sending a delegation
from their Ministry of Defense to AFRICOM in mid-April to
discuss their experiences in the area of SSR in the DRC, and
our defense attache plans on attending this meeting. That
the Belgians believe that the U.S. has a "growing role" to
play in DRC-donor cooperation on military reform is a sign
that Europeans and, hopefully, others, will join with us in
trying to revive the military reform process and move it
forward. We would appreciate Washington's (DOS and DOD) and
AFRICOM's views on how to reinforce this initiative in other
arenas (e.g., military-to-military gatherings under the aegis
of AFRICOM; the Great Lakes Support Group; etc.). End
comment.
GARVELINK