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SUBJECT: U/S BURNS' DECEMBER 10, 2009, MEETING WITH
INDONESIAN DEPARTMENT OF FOREIGN AFFAIRS SECRETARY GENERAL
IMRON COTAN

Classified By: Ambassador Cameron R. Hume, reasons 1.4 (b+d).


1. (SBU) December 10, 2009; 10:45 a.m.; Bali Democracy
Forum; Bali, Indonesia.


2. (SBU) Participants:

U.S.
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Under Secretary William Burns
Ambassador Cameron Hume, Embassy Jakarta
Scot Marciel, EAP Deputy Assistant Secretary of State
Dan Rochman, Embassy Jakarta political officer (notetaker)

INDONESIA
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Imron Cotan, Secretary General, Department of Foreign Affairs
Bunyan Saptomo, Director, Directorate of North and Central
America, Department of Foreign Affairs
Department of Foreign Affairs notetaker


3. (C) SUMMARY In a December 10 meeting with Indonesian
Department of Foreign Affairs (DEPLU) Secretary General Imron
Cotan on the margins of the second annual Bali Democracy
Forum (BDF),Under Secretary Bill Burns stressed the
importance of using the bilateral Comprehensive Partnership
(CP) to achieve concrete results. In response to Cotan's
call for U.S. engagement with Indonesia's Army Special
Forces, U/S Burns explained the complexity of the issue and
pointed out the many productive areas in bilateral mil-to-mil
relations. Cotan said Indonesia was keen to support Afghan
police training but wary of becoming a target if it did so.
U/S Burns encouraged Indonesia to ratify the Comprehensive
Test Ban Treaty (CTBT) rapidly. Cotan praised the U.S.
stance on climate change and said President Yudhoyono was
eager to help achieve a positive result in Copenhagen. END
SUMMARY.

BDF AND COMPREHENSIVE PARTNERSHIP


4. (C) U/S Burns noted that his attendance at the BDF was
indicative of U.S. respect for the role of Indonesia and
President Yudhoyono in building and strengthening democracy
throughout the region. The launching of the bilateral CP was
a mark of maturing relations. The CP must, however, go
beyond rhetoric and be implemented with substantive
initiatives. Finalizing the proposed Science and Technology
Agreement before the January visit of Presidential Science
Envoy Bruce Alberts would be a very positive step. Cotan
agreed with U/S Burns that there was thus much to be done
before the anticipated visit of President Obama in mid-2010
and stressed that Indonesia saw its growing partnership with
the United States as extremely valuable.

MILITARY-TO-MILITARY RELATIONS


5. (C) Cotan said that it was important to increase
bilateral military exchanges and interaction, especially with
KOPASSUS (Army Special Forces). Engagement with KOPASSUS
would further the cause of military reform in Indonesia, by
exposing KOPASSUS leaders to international norms and
practices. The continued exclusion of KOPASSUS from
engagement with U.S. forces limited the ability of KOPASSUS
leadership to gain an appropriate and broader perspective,
Cotan concluded.


6. (C) U/S Burns said that rapid agreement on the proposed
Defense Cooperation Agreement (DCA) would be a concrete step
in the further deepening of mil-to-mil relations. Engagement
with KOPASSUS continued to be a difficult and complex issue,
particularly as there remained many in Washington, including
in Congress, with serious concerns about accountability for
past KOPASSUS actions. Overall bilateral military
cooperation was very productive, however, and the USG looked
forward to continued expansion of cooperation on
peacekeeping, maritime security, and disaster relief.

AFGHANISTAN


7. (C) Cotan said the GOI was keen to contribute to training
efforts for Afghan security personnel. However, Indonesia
wanted to proceed in a way that did not attract too much
attention. Cotan said the Indonesian Embassy in Kabul had
already received a number of threats, and the GOI was wary of
becoming a target. U/S Burns stressed the potential

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significance of Indonesian training for Afghan police and
pointed out that the United States would be very flexible in
helping Indonesia find a way to do so.

NONPROLIFERATION


8. (C) Cotan said that although the GOI was increasingly
interested in nuclear power generation, it would move forward
in a manner strictly in adherence with the Nuclear
Nonproliferation Treaty (NPT). The GOI was very encouraged
by the Obama administration's balanced stress on disarmament
and nonproliferation and looked forward helping make the
spring 2010 Nuclear Security Summit a success. U/S Burns
said that Indonesia has shown leadership by signing the
Additional Protocol and could play an important role in
convincing other ASEAN members to do likewise. Additionally,
Indonesian ratification of the CTBT before the United States
could have a positive impact on U.S. ratification efforts.

CLIMATE CHANGE


9. (C) Cotan said that the GOI viewed positively the Obama
administration's stance on climate change and that President
Yudhoyono was very keen on a successful Copenhagen Summit.
U/S Burns noted the importance of transparency in setting
emissions reductions targets, including by China, and the
urgency in making progress before leaders met December 18-19.



10. (U) U/S Burns cleared this message.


HUME