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09HANOI771
2009-08-14 08:03:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Hanoi
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VATICAN RELATIONS IMPROVE AS ARCHBISHOP KIET CONSIDERS HIS

Tags:  PHUM PGOV PREL KIRF VT VM 
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/14/2009
TAGS: PHUM PGOV PREL KIRF VT VM
SUBJECT: VATICAN RELATIONS IMPROVE AS ARCHBISHOP KIET CONSIDERS HIS
FUTURE

REF: A. HANOI 699

B. HANOI 160

C. 08 HANOI 1321


Classified By: Acting Political Counselor Michael Goldman. Reasons
1.4 (B/D)

C O N F I D E N T I A L HANOI 000771


STATE FOR EAP/MLS AND DRL/IRF

E.O. 12958: DECL: 08/14/2009
TAGS: PHUM PGOV PREL KIRF VT VM
SUBJECT: VATICAN RELATIONS IMPROVE AS ARCHBISHOP KIET CONSIDERS HIS
FUTURE

REF: A. HANOI 699

B. HANOI 160

C. 08 HANOI 1321


Classified By: Acting Political Counselor Michael Goldman. Reasons
1.4 (B/D)


1. (C) SUMMARY. With President Nguyen Minh Triet scheduled to visit
the Holy See in November, Vatican officials have told the Hanoi
Archdiocese that they are bullish about normalizing relations. Local
Catholic leaders are less than fully elated at the prospect, however,
voicing suspicion over the GVN's intentions. Moreover, a source
close to Hanoi Archbishop Ngo Quang Kiet said that officials in the
Archdiocese are pessimistic about Kiet's future and worry that he is
now perceived by both the Vatican and the GVN as an obstacle. They
speculate that the odds are even that the Archbishop would retire.
After returning from the Vatican, Kiet spent the month of July in
seclusion contemplating his future. END SUMMARY

VATICAN-GVN TIES WARMING
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2. (C) Father Thomas Nguyen Xuan Thuy, Chief of Financial and
Administrative Affairs of the Hanoi Archbishop's Office, stated that
the Vatican believes that relations between the GVN and the Holy See
are the best they have ever been and are bullish that some agreement
can be reached to normalize relations during President Triet's
upcoming visit with the Pope in November. Father Thuy asserted that
the Papal calendar for November has been confirmed, and that
President Nguyen Minh Triet will be granted a meeting with the
Pontiff. Father Thuy speculated that if relations were normalized,
the Vatican would choose to operate out of their diplomatic mission
in Bangkok rather than immediately name a Papal Envoy to oversee a
new Embassy in Hanoi.


3. (C) Father Thuy said that he and his colleagues in Vietnam's
Catholic leadership remain suspicious, commenting that they have
"been lied to by the Communist Government for over 50 years." He
voiced concern that improved relations with the Vatican would enable
the GVN to force local Catholics into silence in their long-running
land disputes and would inhibit the local Church from expanding into
education and health care. Vietnam's Catholic Bishops, according to

Thuy, are afraid that the GVN would cease dealing with their concerns
directly and instead work through the Vatican's Embassy, which might
prove unsympathetic. During the recent visit of Cardinal Man and 28
other Catholic Bishops to the Vatican in late June, Thuy said the
Holy See did little to assuage these concerns; instead, Bishops were
instructed to keep land disputes from escalating.

WILL ARCHBISHOP KIET RESIGN?
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4. (C) On August 10, the blog of a journalist close to the Vice
Minister of Public Security claimed that Archbishop Ngo Quang Kiet
was planning to step down after the Pope criticized Kiet's handling
of land protests in Hanoi last year. Father Thuy confirmed that the
Archbishop had been complaining of stress and insomnia ever since the
February visit to Vietnam of the Holy See Under-Secretary for
Relations with States Pietro Parolin. After his most recent visit to
the Vatican, together with Cardinal Man and his fellow Bishops,
Archbishop Kiet spent the month of July in Ninh Binh Province
recuperating from "health problems." Thuy said that the Archbishop
was contemplating his future and said he believed there was a "50
percent chance" that the Archbishop would resign.


5. (C) Father Thuy insisted that the Vatican has not, and would not,
directly ask Kiet to step down. Nevertheless, Father Thuy pointed to
separate instances where the Vatican had hinted at its displeasure
over Kiet's actions. First, during the February Vatican visit by
Under-Secretary Parolin, Kiet was privately criticized for his
handling of land disputes in Hanoi. Second, during their meeting
with Pope this summer, Vietnam's Bishops were told to "make personal
sacrifices, show restraint in all disagreements with the government,
and to obey the law," which many took to be another implicit
criticism of Kiet's role in the land dispute issues. Father Thuy
said that rumors were spreading in Rome that Archbishop Kiet was
increasingly viewed as the final obstacle to normalizing relations
between the Holy See and the Vatican.


6. (C) Father Thuy speculated that it was possible the Archbishop
could be appointed to a position in Rome as a way of easing him out
of Hanoi, but he said that he believed that the Archbishop would
rather resign than move to Rome. Thuy also said that that the
Archbishop did not want to become a stumbling block to normalized
relations. Further complicating the situation, Cardinal Pham Minh
Man in Ho Chi Minh City will soon reach mandatory retirement age, and
Archbishop Kiet -- if he stays -- would be the only possible
successor. Given the well-publicized frictions between Kiet and GVN
officials, there was real concern within the Conference of Catholic
Bishops that the GVN would reject Kiet's appointment to Cardinal,


Thuy said.


7. (U) This cable was coordinated with Consulate Ho Chi Minh City.

MICHALAK