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2009-12-20 19:44:00
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START FOLLOW-ON NEGOTIATIONS, GENEVA

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 09/21/2019
TAGS: KACT MARR PARM PREL RS US START
SUBJECT: START FOLLOW-ON NEGOTIATIONS, GENEVA
(SFO-GVA-VII): (U) MEETING OF THE NOTIFICATIONS PROTOCOL
WORKING GROUP, DECEMBER 14, 2009

Classified By: A/S Rose E. Gottemoeller, United States
START Negotiator. Reasons: 1.4(b) and (d).

S E C R E T GENEVA 001230

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DEPT FOR T, VCI AND EUR/PRA
DOE FOR NNSA/NA-24
CIA FOR WINPAC
JCS FOR J5/DDGSA
SECDEF FOR OSD(P)/STRATCAP
NAVY FOR CNO-N5JA AND DIRSSP
AIRFORCE FOR HQ USAF/ASX AND ASXP
DTRA FOR OP-OS OP-OSA AND DIRECTOR
NSC FOR LOOK
DIA FOR LEA

E.O. 12958: DECL: 09/21/2019
TAGS: KACT MARR PARM PREL RS US START
SUBJECT: START FOLLOW-ON NEGOTIATIONS, GENEVA
(SFO-GVA-VII): (U) MEETING OF THE NOTIFICATIONS PROTOCOL
WORKING GROUP, DECEMBER 14, 2009

Classified By: A/S Rose E. Gottemoeller, United States
START Negotiator. Reasons: 1.4(b) and (d).


1. (U) This is SFO-GVA-VII-139.


2. (U) Meeting Date: December 14, 2009
Time: 10:00 A.M. to 11:30 A.M. and
Place: U.S. Mission, Geneva

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SUMMARY
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3. (S) During a meeting of the Notifications Working Group
held at the U.S. Mission on December 14, 2009, the sides
discussed concepts for using one notification (Begin comment:
This was a Format 3 Notification under START. End comment.)
that would cover all changes to the treaty's database. The
sides also exchanged ideas on how heavy bomber movements
would be notified. End Summary.


4. (S) SUBJECT SUMMARY: Concepts and Concerns

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CONCEPTS AND CONCERNS
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5. (S) The sides discussed the Russian-proposed concept for
using one notification that would cover all changes in the
treaty's database; this notification would is found in
Section II, Notifications Concerning the Database. Col
Ryzhkov provided a written example of how the change in
database notification could be used in the case of
elimination procedures. He noted that the comments portion
of the format would be very important; it would contain
additional information about the elimination procedure and
would reference the requirement for notification. Ryzhkov
indicated such formats would include references to prior
notifications regarding the same treaty-accountable item and
that the notification would be used to indicate the opening
of an inspection window during conversion or elimination.


6. (S) Ryzhkov stated the Russian side disagreed with having
different time periods for the various notifications.
Specific examples included prior notification of a flight
test and notifying the movement of non-deployed strategic
offensive arms. Mr. Siemon replied he would communicate
those concerns to the U.S. delegation and would be prepared
to discuss the issue at the next working group meeting.


7. (S) Ryzhkov and Siemon discussed Russia's proposal for
providing notifications on nuclear and non-nuclear capable
heavy bomber movements outside national territory. Ryzhkov
stated it was extremely important for Russia to determine
whether a heavy bomber deployed outside the national
territory was or was not equipped for nuclear armaments. He
stressed that a notification containing that information
would be helpful. He also reinforced the need for full
reporting and exhibitions on all B-1B aircraft until all
conversions were complete. Siemon replied that the use of
unique identifiers on heavy bombers would solve the problem
of tracking heavy bomber movements, however, the Russian side
had rejected this proposal weeks ago.




8. (U) Documents provided:

- RUSSIA

-- Russian Example of a Change in Database Information
Format (Format 3).


9. (U) Participants:

UNITED STATES

Mr. Siemon
Mr. Dwyer
LT Sicks
Mr. French (Int)

RUSSIA

Mr. Ryzhkov
Mr. Smirnov
Mr. Voloskov


10. (U) Gottemoeller sends.
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