Identifier
Created
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09BOGOTA3223
2009-10-16 20:19:00
SECRET//NOFORN
Embassy Bogota
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AMBASSADOR MEETS WITH MOD SILVA ON AFGHANISTAN DEPLOYMENT
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S E C R E T BOGOTA 003223
SENSITIVE
SIPDIS
NOFORN
E.O. 12958: DECL: 2019/10/16
TAGS: PREL MARR MCAP MOPS PGOV PTER PHUM AF CO
SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR MEETS WITH MOD SILVA ON AFGHANISTAN DEPLOYMENT
CLASSIFIED BY: Brian A. Nichols, Charge d'Affaires, Department of
State, EXEC; REASON: 1.4(B),(D)
SUMMARY
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S E C R E T BOGOTA 003223
SENSITIVE
SIPDIS
NOFORN
E.O. 12958: DECL: 2019/10/16
TAGS: PREL MARR MCAP MOPS PGOV PTER PHUM AF CO
SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR MEETS WITH MOD SILVA ON AFGHANISTAN DEPLOYMENT
CLASSIFIED BY: Brian A. Nichols, Charge d'Affaires, Department of
State, EXEC; REASON: 1.4(B),(D)
SUMMARY
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1. (S/NF) The Ambassador met with Colombian Defense Minister
Gabriel Silva and Vice Minister Sergio Jaramillo on October 1,
2009. Silva told the Ambassador that the Government of Colombia
(GOC) wants to complete the U.S.-Colombia Defense Cooperation
Agreement (DCA) and review of Track II issues prior to deployment
of Colombian troops to Afghanistan under Operation Enduring Freedom
(OEF). Silva noted the GOC wants to accelerate deployment with
Spanish troops under NATO's International Security Assistance Force
(ISAF). The Ambassador also raised human rights, recommending that
the Defense Ministry resume its past practice of conducting regular
human rights consultations with the U.N. High Commission for Human
Rights (UNHCHR) and interested Ambassadors. End Summary.
COLOMBIAN DEPLOYMENT TO AFGHANISTAN
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2. (S/NF) In response to the Ambassador's query, MOD Silva said
that the GOC's position on deploying forces to Afghanistan is that
any deployment must take into account the proper strategic
communications message, sequencing and timing. He noted the GOC
wants to complete the signing of the DCA and review of Track II
issues before proceeding with a deployment under OEF.
3. (S/NF) Silva continued that the GOC wants to accelerate its
potentially less controversial deployment with Spanish troops as
part of NATO's ISAF. While Silva acknowledged that this could mean
the GOC may deploy with ISAF before it deploys under OEF, he
indicated this is not a requirement. The Ambassador said that he
would tell U.S. Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) and U.S. Special
Operations Command (SOCOM) that the 7th Special Forces Group should
operate on the assumption that Colombian forces would not be ready
to deploy with them in Afghanistan this fall.
GOC OFFERS COUNTER-NARCOTICS EXPERIENCE
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4. (C) Vice Minister of Defense Sergio Jaramillo said that he
thinks that the counter-narcotics issue in Afghanistan and Pakistan
is viewed too narrowly. He said that Colombia might offer some
specific expertise in this area. Jaramillo recalled that his
participation in the launch of CSIS' new report, "Countering
Threats to Security and Stability in a Failing State: Lessons from
Colombia," had generated some interesting ideas in that regard. He
noted that CSIS' Anthony Cordesman has offered a number of
interesting lessons from Colombia as well as false parallels in
contrasting events in Afghanistan and Colombia. Jaramillo also
noted that he had useful conversations with USG officials on
Afghanistan during his most recent trip to the United States.
MINISTRY OF DEFENSE HUMAN RIGHTS CONSULTATIONS
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5. (SBU) The Ambassador stated that regular human rights
consultations between then Defense Minister Juan Manuel Santos and
UNHCHR as well as interested Ambassadors had been useful in the
past. He asked Jaramillo to resume the practice. Jaramillo said
that he had already discussed this with MOD Silva and that Silva
planned to continue these meetings.
NICHOLS
SENSITIVE
SIPDIS
NOFORN
E.O. 12958: DECL: 2019/10/16
TAGS: PREL MARR MCAP MOPS PGOV PTER PHUM AF CO
SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR MEETS WITH MOD SILVA ON AFGHANISTAN DEPLOYMENT
CLASSIFIED BY: Brian A. Nichols, Charge d'Affaires, Department of
State, EXEC; REASON: 1.4(B),(D)
SUMMARY
--------------
1. (S/NF) The Ambassador met with Colombian Defense Minister
Gabriel Silva and Vice Minister Sergio Jaramillo on October 1,
2009. Silva told the Ambassador that the Government of Colombia
(GOC) wants to complete the U.S.-Colombia Defense Cooperation
Agreement (DCA) and review of Track II issues prior to deployment
of Colombian troops to Afghanistan under Operation Enduring Freedom
(OEF). Silva noted the GOC wants to accelerate deployment with
Spanish troops under NATO's International Security Assistance Force
(ISAF). The Ambassador also raised human rights, recommending that
the Defense Ministry resume its past practice of conducting regular
human rights consultations with the U.N. High Commission for Human
Rights (UNHCHR) and interested Ambassadors. End Summary.
COLOMBIAN DEPLOYMENT TO AFGHANISTAN
--------------
2. (S/NF) In response to the Ambassador's query, MOD Silva said
that the GOC's position on deploying forces to Afghanistan is that
any deployment must take into account the proper strategic
communications message, sequencing and timing. He noted the GOC
wants to complete the signing of the DCA and review of Track II
issues before proceeding with a deployment under OEF.
3. (S/NF) Silva continued that the GOC wants to accelerate its
potentially less controversial deployment with Spanish troops as
part of NATO's ISAF. While Silva acknowledged that this could mean
the GOC may deploy with ISAF before it deploys under OEF, he
indicated this is not a requirement. The Ambassador said that he
would tell U.S. Southern Command (SOUTHCOM) and U.S. Special
Operations Command (SOCOM) that the 7th Special Forces Group should
operate on the assumption that Colombian forces would not be ready
to deploy with them in Afghanistan this fall.
GOC OFFERS COUNTER-NARCOTICS EXPERIENCE
--------------
4. (C) Vice Minister of Defense Sergio Jaramillo said that he
thinks that the counter-narcotics issue in Afghanistan and Pakistan
is viewed too narrowly. He said that Colombia might offer some
specific expertise in this area. Jaramillo recalled that his
participation in the launch of CSIS' new report, "Countering
Threats to Security and Stability in a Failing State: Lessons from
Colombia," had generated some interesting ideas in that regard. He
noted that CSIS' Anthony Cordesman has offered a number of
interesting lessons from Colombia as well as false parallels in
contrasting events in Afghanistan and Colombia. Jaramillo also
noted that he had useful conversations with USG officials on
Afghanistan during his most recent trip to the United States.
MINISTRY OF DEFENSE HUMAN RIGHTS CONSULTATIONS
-------------- -
5. (SBU) The Ambassador stated that regular human rights
consultations between then Defense Minister Juan Manuel Santos and
UNHCHR as well as interested Ambassadors had been useful in the
past. He asked Jaramillo to resume the practice. Jaramillo said
that he had already discussed this with MOD Silva and that Silva
planned to continue these meetings.
NICHOLS