Identifier
Created
Classification
Origin
09BERLIN1277
2009-10-13 16:33:00
UNCLASSIFIED//FOR OFFICIAL USE ONLY
Embassy Berlin
Cable title:
GICNT: GERMANY NOTIFIED OF NEW DATES; QUESTIONS
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UNCLAS BERLIN 001277
SENSITIVE
SIPDIS
ISN/WMDT
E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: PARM PREL PTER KGIC GM
SUBJECT: GICNT: GERMANY NOTIFIED OF NEW DATES; QUESTIONS
GICNT'S FUTURE WITHIN G-8, G-20
REF: STATE 83550
UNCLAS BERLIN 001277
SENSITIVE
SIPDIS
ISN/WMDT
E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: PARM PREL PTER KGIC GM
SUBJECT: GICNT: GERMANY NOTIFIED OF NEW DATES; QUESTIONS
GICNT'S FUTURE WITHIN G-8, G-20
REF: STATE 83550
1. (U) Econoff delivered reftel points to German MFA desk
officer Dr. Bernd Rinnert. Russian MFA First Secretary
Dmitry Cherkaschin also attended. Rinnert thanked Econoff
for the information.
2. (SBU) Rinnert wondered aloud how the GICNT fits into the
G-20 as it overtakes the G-8 and, presumably, the G-8 Global
Partnership Against the Spread of Nuclear Weapons and
Materials of Mass Destruction. He stated that the G-20
members have fewer overlapping common interests than the G-8
members. As an example, he stated that Saudi Arabia (as a
G-20 member) has less interest in Russia's nuclear program
than the G-8 members. He likened the potential difficulties
in gaining consensus on issues in the expanded G-20 forum to
those experienced in the EU after its expansion to 27 members.
Murphy
SENSITIVE
SIPDIS
ISN/WMDT
E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: PARM PREL PTER KGIC GM
SUBJECT: GICNT: GERMANY NOTIFIED OF NEW DATES; QUESTIONS
GICNT'S FUTURE WITHIN G-8, G-20
REF: STATE 83550
1. (U) Econoff delivered reftel points to German MFA desk
officer Dr. Bernd Rinnert. Russian MFA First Secretary
Dmitry Cherkaschin also attended. Rinnert thanked Econoff
for the information.
2. (SBU) Rinnert wondered aloud how the GICNT fits into the
G-20 as it overtakes the G-8 and, presumably, the G-8 Global
Partnership Against the Spread of Nuclear Weapons and
Materials of Mass Destruction. He stated that the G-20
members have fewer overlapping common interests than the G-8
members. As an example, he stated that Saudi Arabia (as a
G-20 member) has less interest in Russia's nuclear program
than the G-8 members. He likened the potential difficulties
in gaining consensus on issues in the expanded G-20 forum to
those experienced in the EU after its expansion to 27 members.
Murphy