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2009-06-11 15:05:00
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Embassy Beirut
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LEBANON: JUMBLATT SAYS S/E MITCHELL SHOULD FOCUS

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/27/2019
TAGS: PREL PGOV PTER PINR MOPS IS SY LE
SUBJECT: LEBANON: JUMBLATT SAYS S/E MITCHELL SHOULD FOCUS
ON ISRAEL'S SETTLEMENTS

REF: BEIRUT 563

Classified By: Ambassador Michele J. Sison for reasons 1.4
(b) and (d)

SUMMARY
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 05/27/2019
TAGS: PREL PGOV PTER PINR MOPS IS SY LE
SUBJECT: LEBANON: JUMBLATT SAYS S/E MITCHELL SHOULD FOCUS
ON ISRAEL'S SETTLEMENTS

REF: BEIRUT 563

Classified By: Ambassador Michele J. Sison for reasons 1.4
(b) and (d)

SUMMARY
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1. (C) Druze leader Walid Jumblatt, in a June 10 meeting with
the Ambassador, advised that Special Envoy George Mitchell
should secure a freeze on Israeli settlements in order that
President Obama's peace efforts succeed. Asked about
Lebanon's role in regional peace, he half-joked "We cannot
afford peace here, we're tribes," but maintained that
securing a freeze on Israeli settlements was the basic issue
to pursue first for peace in the region to evolve. Jumblatt
said that it would take one year to make a more substantial
peace deal. He was skeptical on the value of contacts with
Israel regarding Sheb'aa Farms and northern Ghajar, but added
that the international community must deliver something on
these issues. He believed "fixing up" the Ta'if Accord and
the 1949 Lebanon-Israel Armistice would be starting points in
reaching a future peace deal with Israel.


2. (C) Turning to Lebanon, Jumblatt remarked that Hizballah's
uprising in Beirut on May 2008 cost Hizballah the
parliamentary election, along with Hassan Nasrallah's
arrogance and misplaced statements about May 7, 2008 having
been a "glorious day." Jumblatt believed Hizballah would
want to repeat the Doha Agreement's "blocking third."
Stating that President Sleiman "lost" in the elections,
Jumblatt nonetheless said he would advise the incoming
majority-led government to work with Sleiman as he could
provide some leverage to a minority bloc veto. Jumblatt said
Saad Hariri would need good advisors and understand the
lessons of history if he was to ucceed as Lebanon's new

Prime Minister. End sumary.

SETTLEMENTS, SETTLEMENTS, SETTLEMENTS
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3. (C) Druze leader Walid Jumblatt, in a June 10 meeting with
the Ambassador, DCM and Poloff at his residence, advised that
Special Envoy George Mitchell must secure a freeze on Israeli
settlements for President Obama's peace efforts to succeed.
He maintained that securing a freeze on Israeli settlements
was the basic issue to pursue for peace in the region to
evolve. Jumblatt said after a settlement freeze was
implemented, it would take one year to make "a more
substantial" peace deal. He professed that after fifteen
years of negotiations, the parties could not go back to
"business as usual."

SHEB'AA & GHAJAR
PART OF THE MIX
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4. (C) Jumblatt was negative on Lebanon being more
forward-leaning with Israel to resolve the issues of Sheb'aa
Farms and northern Ghajar. "We have enough divisions to work
out in Lebanon without trying to do more with Israel now," he
said. Instead Jumblatt stressed the need for the
international community to "deliver something." He noted
that while a separate peace deal in the region may be
elusive, solving the issues of Sheb'aa and Ghajar could
reduce regional tensions with Israel.

"WE'RE TRIBES HERE!"
--------------


5. (C) Asked what S/E Mitchell should say to presumptive PM
Saad Hariri and President Michel Sleiman regarding peace
initiatives during S/E Mitchell's June 12 visit to Lebanon,
Jumblatt blurted sardonically "We cannot afford peace here,
we're tribes here." He assessed that "fixing up" the Ta'if
Accord or using the 1949 Lebanese-Israeli Armistice as a

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starting point would be a "safe" approach to peace
negotiations with Israel.

A TIRED JUMBLATT
ASSESSES HIZBALLAH, AOUN
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6. Jumblatt looked tired and a bit down after the June 7
parliamentary elections in which his Progressive Socialist
Party (PSP) lost five seats in an otherwise surprisingly
strong victory for the March 14 coalition. (He had given up
three or four of these before the election in order to help
his March 14 allies in various districts and in a deal with
opposition Druze leader Talal Arslan.) Jumblatt assessed
that Hizballah had paid a price for its May 2008 uprising and
for SYG Hassan Nasrallah's "misplaced" fiery speech last
month, in which he called the May 2008 takeover a "glorious
day" (reftel). Comparing May 2008 and election day, Jumblatt
quipped that the "outcome was different without (the threat
of) Hizballah's weapons."


7. (C) Jumblatt added that March 8 ally Michel Aoun would not
change and nor would Hizballah. He believed both used time
to their advantage and would be patient to get what they
wanted from a new government. (Note: Aoun's bloc actually
comes to the table with five more elected Free Patriotic
Movement members than in 2005 -- 20 vs.15 -- along with seven
allies. End note.) Jumblatt believed Nasrallah would "cool
down" if President Obama "delivered" on the Palestinian peace
initiative, if Saudi-Syrian rapprochement continued, and U.S.
if diplomatic engagement withQran moved forward. He advised
that Hizballah would want to continue with the "blocking
third" veto stipulated by the 2008 Doha Agreement, but
cautioned that Lebanon could not go back to an agreement that
was the result of an "invasion" if it wanted to move forward
with political and economic reform.

PROSPECTIVE ON
A NEW GOVERNMENT
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8. (C) Jumblatt said the strategy behind forming a new
government was inherently different than that of elections
and "shocks would come" during the government formation
process. He noted how "history repeats itself badly for the
Lebanese" by letting "deal making" interfere with sound
judgment in building a new government. He praised current
Interior Minister Ziad Baroud as the type of person needed in
Lebanon's new government. "With a proper system" new people
would come, especially independents, he surmised. Jumblatt
said there are many like Baroud who "only need a chance."
Jumblatt however admitted to being part of the old style
"feudal" political system that prevents new blood from
entering into government.

9.(C) "Saad is acquiring experience," Jumblatt said of the
March 14 leader and likely PM-designate. He will need to
know the "lessons of Lebanon's history" if he is to succeed,
Jumblatt added. Jumblatt admitted that on tough issues like
electoral reform and economic reform, consensus would be
needed. Stating that Sleiman had "lost" in the elections (a
comment referring to some independent candidates' poor
performance in Sleiman's home district),Jumblatt advised the
new majority-led cabinet to work with Sleiman, as the
President could provide some leverage to an opposition bloc
in cabinet.

SISON