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09BANGKOK3044
2009-12-02 09:53:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Bangkok
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LAO HMONG: AMBASSADOR PUSHES THAI FM ON NO FORCED

Tags:  PREF PHUM SMIG TH LA 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L BANGKOK 003044 

SIPDIS

GENEVA FOR RMA
DEPT FOR PRM/ANE AND PRM/A; EAP/MLS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/02/2019
TAGS: PREF PHUM SMIG TH LA
SUBJECT: LAO HMONG: AMBASSADOR PUSHES THAI FM ON NO FORCED
RETURNS, BUT FM MAKES CLEAR THAI MOVING FORWARD

REF: A. STATE 122622

B. VIENTIANE 553

Classified By: Ambassador Eric G. John, reasons 1.4 (b) and (d)

C O N F I D E N T I A L BANGKOK 003044

SIPDIS

GENEVA FOR RMA
DEPT FOR PRM/ANE AND PRM/A; EAP/MLS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 12/02/2019
TAGS: PREF PHUM SMIG TH LA
SUBJECT: LAO HMONG: AMBASSADOR PUSHES THAI FM ON NO FORCED
RETURNS, BUT FM MAKES CLEAR THAI MOVING FORWARD

REF: A. STATE 122622

B. VIENTIANE 553

Classified By: Ambassador Eric G. John, reasons 1.4 (b) and (d)


1. (C) The Ambassador, in a meeting with Foreign Minister
Kasit Piromya the evening of December 1 at the Foreign
Ministry, stressed that the Thai government should not
forcibly repatriate Lao Hmong at Phetchabun and Nong Khai,
per Ref A. Recalling Prime Minister Abhisit Vejjajiva's
assurances to Secretary Clinton in July that there would be
no forced returns, the Ambassador stressed to Kasit that U.S.
would take a forced return very seriously, particularly
considering that the Hmong at Nong Khai had been recognized
by the UNHCR as being in need of protection and that the RTG
had made its own determination that some of those at
Phetchabun were in need of protection. Kasit responded that
the RTG was cognizant of the USG position.


2. (C) Kasit told the Ambassador that Royal Thai Armed
Forces Headquarters Director of Border Affairs Lieutenant
General Nipat Thonglek had earlier on December 1 met his Lao
counterpart in order to maintain close cooperation as the two
governments planned for the return of the Hmong. While a
schedule to send back those at Phetchabun and Nong Khai had
not yet been fixed, the Foreign Minister would travel with PM
Abhisit to Vientiane December 9 for a visit expected to
further bilateral planning on the Hmong issue (Note: We
believe the visit is connected to the start of the Southeast
Asian Games).


3. (C) The Ambassador emphasized to Kasit the need to share
with the U.S. the list of those at the Phetchabun camp who
had been screened-in by the RTG. Sharing the list would go
far in facilitating the safety of those at Phetchabun if they
were returned to Laos.


4. (C) Note: LTG Nipat confirmed his meeting with his Lao
counterpart in Udorn in a late December 1 evening telcon with
PolCouns. Nipat indicated that the Thai would "abide by the
commitments previously made in meetings between the Thai and
Lao Prime Ministers." Intimating that a final resolution of
the status of the Phetchabun Hmong was imminent, Nipat said
that there would likely be an interagency Thai meeting late
on December 2 or early December 3 to agree on the way
forward, and that he would be willing to talk to us again
after that meeting. PolCouns reiterated to Nipat our
standing request for the list of Hmong the RTG had
screened-in; Nipat demurred, but suggested the Lao had
expressed a willingness to cooperate with the U.S. on persons
of concern. We will take Nipat up on his offer to meet later
in the week. End note.


5. (C) Comment: Given Ref B indication that the GOL is
willing to work with us on the proposal for the return of the
Nong Khai group, we should consider whether it makes sense
for the USG to encourage the RTG to go slow on the return of
that group while we (reluctantly) accept that the Phetchabun
train is leaving the station. End comment.
JOHN