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09ATHENS497
2009-04-06 09:42:00
SECRET
Embassy Athens
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MFA POSITIVE ON AFGHANISTAN, VISA WAIVER NEGOTIATIONS, POTUS

Tags:  PGOV PREL IR AF MOPS GR 
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S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 02 ATHENS 000497 

SIPDIS
AMEMBASSY ANKARA PASS TO AMCONSUL ADANA
AMEMBASSY ASTANA PASS TO USOFFICE ALMATY
AMEMBASSY BERLIN PASS TO AMCONSUL DUSSELDORF
AMEMBASSY BERLIN PASS TO AMCONSUL LEIPZIG
AMEMBASSY BELGRADE PASS TO AMEMBASSY PODGORICA
AMEMBASSY HELSINKI PASS TO AMCONSUL ST PETERSBURG
AMEMBASSY ATHENS PASS TO AMCONSUL THESSALONIKI
AMEMBASSY MOSCOW PASS TO AMCONSUL VLADIVOSTOK
AMEMBASSY MOSCOW PASS TO AMCONSUL YEKATERINBURG

E.O. 12958: DECL: 2019/04/06
TAGS: PGOV PREL IR AF MOPS GR
SUBJECT: MFA POSITIVE ON AFGHANISTAN, VISA WAIVER NEGOTIATIONS, POTUS
ENGAGEMENT WITH IRAN

REF: A) SECSTATE 31102, B) ATHENS 471, C) 2008 ATHENS 833, D)
SECSTATE 25892, E) GOODMAN E-MAIL 04/01/2009 ON GTMO MATRIX

CLASSIFIED BY: Daniel Speckhard, Ambassador, State, AmEmbassy Athens;
REASON: 1.4(B),(D)

S E C R E T SECTION 01 OF 02 ATHENS 000497

SIPDIS
AMEMBASSY ANKARA PASS TO AMCONSUL ADANA
AMEMBASSY ASTANA PASS TO USOFFICE ALMATY
AMEMBASSY BERLIN PASS TO AMCONSUL DUSSELDORF
AMEMBASSY BERLIN PASS TO AMCONSUL LEIPZIG
AMEMBASSY BELGRADE PASS TO AMEMBASSY PODGORICA
AMEMBASSY HELSINKI PASS TO AMCONSUL ST PETERSBURG
AMEMBASSY ATHENS PASS TO AMCONSUL THESSALONIKI
AMEMBASSY MOSCOW PASS TO AMCONSUL VLADIVOSTOK
AMEMBASSY MOSCOW PASS TO AMCONSUL YEKATERINBURG

E.O. 12958: DECL: 2019/04/06
TAGS: PGOV PREL IR AF MOPS GR
SUBJECT: MFA POSITIVE ON AFGHANISTAN, VISA WAIVER NEGOTIATIONS, POTUS
ENGAGEMENT WITH IRAN

REF: A) SECSTATE 31102, B) ATHENS 471, C) 2008 ATHENS 833, D)
SECSTATE 25892, E) GOODMAN E-MAIL 04/01/2009 ON GTMO MATRIX

CLASSIFIED BY: Daniel Speckhard, Ambassador, State, AmEmbassy Athens;
REASON: 1.4(B),(D)


1. (C) SUMMARY: Ambassador discussed ref A points on Afghanistan
and Pakistan with head of the Foreign Minister's Diplomatic
Cabinet, Ambassador Kostas Chalastanis, noting the issue was not
only a top priority for the U.S. but also a critical one for
Greece, which had recently seen Afghani migrants to Greece reaching
25,000 per year. Chalastanis agreed with this assessment and said
Greece was preparing a set of plus-ups for Afghanistan (ref B).
Chalastanis thought the U.S. idea of a Greek negotiating team going
to Washington to discuss outstanding Visa Waiver issues was a good
idea and said FM Bakoyannis supported it. Greece was positive and
supportive on President Obama's recent offer of engagement with
Iran (ref D). Greece was willing to re-engage on a PSI
shipboarding agreement, but it was "less favorable" than other EU
member-states on forming a common position on GTMO detainees, which
should be dealt with on an "individual" basis. END SUMMARY.



A NEW STRATEGIC RELATIONSHIP

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2. (C) Ambassador began with an overview of U.S.-Greece relations
going into the NATO and U.S.-EU summits taking place April 3-4 and
April 5. He noted that the advent of the new administration in
Washington provided a strategic opportunity to boost bilateral
relations. It was time to move beyond the issues of Turkey,
Cyprus, and the Macedonia name issue, which were important but had
limited our relations in the past, to a new relationship based on a

broader strategic view of our common interests and concerns.




3. (C) In this regard, Afghanistan - which Ambassador noted was at
the top of President Obama's priorities -- was a prime example of
our broader common interests. Afghanistan was not only about
ending the terrorist threat to the U.S. and Europe but also about
helping Greece deal with the huge influx of Afghani migrants, which
recently have numbered 25,000 per year. Chalastanis said this was
Greece's assessment as well, and he went on to speak briefly about
the plus-ups Greece intended to make to its Afghanistan military
and civilian assistance (ref B).



VISA WAIVER

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4. (C) Ambassador noted the strong U.S. desire to complete Greece's
entry into the Visa Waiver Program and our desire to get it done as
soon as possible, perhaps by June. Ambassador suggested that a
Greek team be empowered to travel to Washington to negotiate.
Chalastanis said that was a good proposal and that FM Bakoyannis
supported sending a team as soon as possible. (NOTE: Embassy is in
close touch with the MFA lead on VWP, Ioannis Raptakis, and will
press him to assemble a negotiating team very soon. END NOTE.)




5. (C) On the VWP MOU, which has been finalized except for the
section on repatriation, Ambassador noted that Greek insistence
that it not be required to accept for repatriation former nationals
who renounced their citizenship more than 15 years ago was based on
a faulty analogy with the Czech Republic. While we understood the

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Czech Republic's MOU did include a 15-year limit, that was
justified because the Czech Republic only came into existence as a
distinct entity in the early 1990s; Greece had no such rationale
for a 15-year limit on repatriation. Chalastanis was unaware of
this disagreement but promised to look into it.



IRAN

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6. (S) Per ref D, Ambassador asked about GOG impressions of the
President's recent offer of engagement to Iran. Chlastanis said
Greece was generally positive on the idea and noted signals from
the Iranians that they wished to have direct contact with the U.S.
He said the Iranians did not want intermediaries (which Greece has
offered to us and, we presume, to the Iranians to be, ref C).
Chalastanis said Greece was hopeful but cautious. He also said he
had no specifics on Greek shipowners' dealings with the Iranians.



PSI SHIPBOARDING AGREEMENT

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7. (C) Ambassador used mention of the shipowners to segue into
signaling our desire to re-engage on the PSI shipboarding
agreement. Chalastanis said he understood the shipowners had a
problem with the liability provisions of the agreement, though the
MFA was as puzzled as the U.S. as to why they were hung up on this.
He promised to look into restarting negotiations.



GTMO DETAINEES

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8. (C) In response to Ambassador's question about Greece's position
on the EU common position (ref E),Chalastanis confirmed that
Greece was less favorable than others, though it was willing to
look at the details of cases from the U.S. and hoped the U.S. would
supply a "catalog" of the detainees for EU inspection. Such cases
would then need to be looked at separately, not en masse.
Nevertheless, Chalastanis said the "good will" was there on the
issue.
SPECKHARD