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NATO: JULY 8 MEETING OF VCC EXPERTS

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TAGS: KCFE PARM PREL NATO
SUBJECT: NATO: JULY 8 MEETING OF VCC EXPERTS

REF: A) SECSTATE 72067

Classified By: CDA Richard G. Olson, Jr., for reasons 1.4 (b and d)

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/09/2018
TAGS: KCFE PARM PREL NATO
SUBJECT: NATO: JULY 8 MEETING OF VCC EXPERTS

REF: A) SECSTATE 72067

Classified By: CDA Richard G. Olson, Jr., for reasons 1.4 (b and d)


1. (SBU) SUMMARY: At the July 8 Experts, Meeting each of
the papers on the agenda was basically approved with a few
tweaks, and in accord with U.S. guidance. The IS Staff will
prepare revisions for all of these papers and circulate them
for further discussion as needed at the next meeting on
September 15. It was also agreed that except for issues
tabled in Vienna, these papers, intended to promote
discussion at next year,s Annual Implementation Assessment
Meeting (AIAM),will not be tabled in Vienna before the next
AIAM, and will be tabled at the AIAM by the original NATO
drafting state. Two new discussion papers (joint papers by
Hungary and Italy) were handed out for future discussion in
the fall. The next meeting will be on September 15 before
the VCC on the same day. END SUMMARY


2. (C) Vienna Document (VD) Implementation Coordination.
Several Allies made similar suggestions to those in the U.S.
guidance which were agreed. Paragraph 7.2 and 8 will be
united into one. Paragraph 5.2 will be removed. Specific
points suggested by the U.S. in regard to procedures for
compensation for states losing opportunities because of
uncoordinated activities by non-NATO states will be added.
In addition, the revised paper on VD coordination will be
titled to represent all future years, not just 2009, and will
contain mention of internal NATO review of the procedures
every year. The staff also noted that at some time in the
future we will probably want to readdress mechanisms for some
coordination procedures with non-NATO states.


3. (C) Duration of an Evaluation Visit. After a fairly long
discussion, it was agreed that the revision to be prepared by
the Staff would be more explicit in terms of tying the "stop"
in time for travel to total time of two or three hours. The
idea of completing evaluations within 12 hours (minus any
uncounted travel time) and in one working day was retained.
In addition, the measure will be more expressly stated as a
voluntary measure. The Germans read a Russian proposal
recently made in Vienna that identified limits on total

accountable travel time, and raising the 12 hours to 14 when
excess travel is discounted. It was apparently agreed that
the Russian proposal was not exactly what we were seeking,
but needed clarification, and France agreed to request
clarification in Vienna.


4. (SBU) Briefings. In spite of some back-and-forth
confused discussion, the paper was basically retained as in.
The next revision will be explicit in such things as the fact
that the briefings are not just by "commanders." But also be
their representatives, and, in accord with U.S. Guidance, it
will be made clear that the level of detail may be less if a
real-world operation with operational security considerations
(as opposed to training activities) is or planned to be
underway.


5. (C) Evaluation Quotas. The paper was basically accepted
as a voluntary measure, and the revised version will have few
changes. States were requested to report back on whether
they were willing to accept added voluntary evaluations, as
the Staff felt that the paper would be more persuasive to
others if NATO states expressed their willingness to do so.
Germany reported that a Russian team leader had recently
stated to a German team that Russia would be prepared to
accept and go along with a future Chairman,s Statement
increasing evaluation quotas and the size of inspection and
evaluation teams.


6. (SBU) Size. Inspection and Evaluation Teams. The paper
was basically accepted as a voluntary measure, and the
revised version will have few changes.


7. (SBU) Digital Cameras and GPS. Again, the paper was
basically accepted. The revision will make it clear that
host states will be prepared to provide GPS for use if they
have denied a request by the inspecting state to use one.


8. (SBU) Remaining Discussion Issue Papers. Staff noted that
there are a few without volunteer drafters and requested
states to consider volunteering. The U.S. suggestion that in
the absence of a drafting volunteer state, an issue would
eventually be dropped from the list was accepted. Meanwhile
at this meeting two papers prepared jointly by Italy and

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Hungary on a Common Understanding of Articles 81 (Sensitive
Points),82 (Third Party),and 98 (Briefings) and Concrete
Parameters on Area for Inspections were handed out and will
also be distributed electronically. These papers will be on
the agenda for discussion at the next meeting.


9. (SBU) In response to comments on several papers, it
appeared to be agreed that when a state wanted to exercise a
voluntary right it should include that in the notification of
intent to conduct an evaluation or inspection. Finally, the
Staff chairman stated that the fall schedule was now firm.
There will be VCC and VCC Experts, Meetings on September 15,
October 28, and December 18, with an experts, meeting (only)
on November 17.

OLSON