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08TUNIS1111
2008-10-20 13:58:00
SECRET
Embassy Tunis
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THE AMBASSADOR'S CALL ON FM ABDALLAH: BILATERAL

Tags:  PREL PGOV MARR PINS PHUM IZ RS TS YM 
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/20/2018
TAGS: PREL PGOV MARR PINS PHUM IZ RS TS YM
SUBJECT: THE AMBASSADOR'S CALL ON FM ABDALLAH: BILATERAL
ISSUES

REF: A. SECTO 8

B. SECTO 6

C. STATE 105349

D. TUNIS 1082

Classified By: Ambassador Robert F. Godec, Reasons 1.4 (b)
and (d)

S E C R E T TUNIS 001111

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 10/20/2018
TAGS: PREL PGOV MARR PINS PHUM IZ RS TS YM
SUBJECT: THE AMBASSADOR'S CALL ON FM ABDALLAH: BILATERAL
ISSUES

REF: A. SECTO 8

B. SECTO 6

C. STATE 105349

D. TUNIS 1082

Classified By: Ambassador Robert F. Godec, Reasons 1.4 (b)
and (d)


1. (S) Summary: During a meeting with the Ambassador on
October 18, FM Abdulwaheb Abdallah said he was making his
first trip to Russia in the coming days, accompanied by 23
businessmen. An economic agreement is to be signed. The
Ambassador asked for an explanation on the withdrawal of
police security from the American school one day before. The
FM said he would inquire. The FM praised the Secretary's
visit in September, saying President Ben Ali was very pleased
to meet her. The Ambassador pressed the Minister to ease
Embassy access to government officials. The Minister feigned
surprise that there was a problem, blaming other ministries.
Separately, the FM's Chief of Staff reported no progress on
raising the Tunisian Embassy in Baghdad from the level of
Charge d'Affaires to that of Ambassador. The GOT has no
response yet on the request for M113's for Yemen. Septels
report discussions on access to former Guantanamo Bay
detainees and advancing democracy. End summary.

Travel to Russia
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2. (C) The Minister said that he was to depart for Russia,
stopping in St. Petersburg and then meeting Russian FM Lavrov
on Oct. 21. Abdallah noted that this would be his first trip
to Russia and that he was looking forward to "discovering"
it. The trip had been on the books for two years, following
an invitation from Lavrov made during a Tunis visit in
November 2005. Abdallah said he had planned a return visit
first in 2006 and then 2007 but it kept being pushed back.
Abdallah said that 23 businessmen would be accompanying him;
the two countries would be signing an accord on an "economic
forum". Describing ties as not inconsiderable, Abdallah
noted that some 150,000 Russian tourists are now visiting per
year and that the Tunisians expect that to double not before
long. He heard that 3.5 million Russians visit Turkey each

year, and suggested that Tunisia good draw on the Russian
demand for foreign travel, especially since prices are
reasonable.

Security for the American School
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3. (C) The Ambassador asked the Minister for an explanation
as to why the police protecting the American Cooperative
School in Tunis (ACST) had been withdrawn without explanation
or advance warning on October 17. The Ambassador said the
action had taken us by surprise and that we did not know the
reasoning. The Minister expressed surprise, as did the Chief
of Protocol, and said he would inquire of the Minister of
Interior. The Chief of Protocol remarked separately to the
DCM that normally such matters would be coordinated through
his office and were not in this case.

Happy with the Secretary's Visit
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4. (C) Abdallah said that President Ben Ali had been very
happy with the Secretary's visit. He noted that there was a
big difference between hearing about somebody and meeting
them in person. Ben Ali greatly appreciated the frank,
direct and friendly style of the Secretary. Abdallah noted
that in a brief meeting with her in New York she had
expressed her pleasure with the visit. The only regret
Abdallah had is that the visit had not come sooner, since it
allowed her to see the Maghreb region up close.

Seeking Greater Communication with the Government
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5. (C) The Ambassador raised Ben Ali's comments to the
Secretary that the Embassy was not well informed and had too
many contacts with oppositionists. Abdallah laughed and
noted that the Secretary had immediately replied that the
Embassy was well informed. The Ambassador said that the
Embassy would like to have more extensive contacts with
government officials, but that it is much more difficult to
meet with GOT officials than with civil society and
opposition representatives. Regular access to the Minister
was appreciated but not sufficient. The need for diplomatic
notes for practically every matter was a problem; the Embassy
has already sent 1377 so far this year, albeit for a range of
matters. The Embassy needed easier, direct access to
government officials to obtain GOT views and to take
advantage of opportunities for cooperation. The Ambassador
cited an appointment request that had been pending 15 months.


6. (C) Commenting that oppositionists have nothing else to
do than to meet with foreigners, the Minister feigned
surprise, claiming that the MFA advocated on the Embassy's
behalf with other ministries to accept appointments. He
described the Ministries of Interior and Justice as the most
recalcitrant. Abdallah noted that the Ambassador has raised
this issue in the past, and said that President Ben Ali is
not against contacts with government personnel, quite the
contrary. The Minister claimed that he would tell the
President of the Ambassador's concerns.

Diplomatic Representation in Iraq
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7. (C) The Minister's Chief of Staff told the DCM in an
aside that the MFA had not yet moved on raising Tunisian
representation in Baghdad from the level of Charge d'Affaires
to that of Ambassador.

Request for M113's for Yemen
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8. (S) The Chief of Staff acknowledged receipt of the
request for excess M113's (refs. C and D) and said the
question had been referred to the Ministry of Defense. He
had no readout to give as to the likely GOT position.

Comment
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9. (C) As usual, Abdallah was friendly and engaged
throughout the meeting, although he appeared tired, perhaps
as the result of his recent heavy travel schedule. The
discussion of the difficulty of engaging with the GOT is one
of the many we have had in recent months with Tunisian
officials. Engagement continues to be a significant
challenge for the Embassy and for the diplomatic community in
Tunis generally. It is a subject of frequent conversation
among developed country diplomats and several other
Embassies, including the German, UK and Canadian, are also
pressing the matter. We will soon present a non-paper to the
MFA on the joint programs, visits and meeting requests that
represent "missed opportunities" to fully develop the
bilateral relationship. Finally, security at the American
schools is an issue in light of the GOT's decision to
withdraw police. While we do not believe the GOT would
deliberately endanger ACST school children, we believe it
would be better to have an armed, visible police presence.
We are following up with GOT officials via several avenues.
GODEC