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2008-02-29 16:43:00
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Consulate Thessaloniki
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NORTHERN GREEKS MAINTAIN HARD LINE ON MACEDONIAN NAME ISSUE,

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E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: PREL PGOV MK GR
SUBJECT: NORTHERN GREEKS MAINTAIN HARD LINE ON MACEDONIAN NAME ISSUE,
EXTREME RIGHT ANNOUNCES MARCH 5 RALLY

REF: (A) ATHENS 258, (B) THESSALONIKI 13

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E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: PREL PGOV MK GR
SUBJECT: NORTHERN GREEKS MAINTAIN HARD LINE ON MACEDONIAN NAME ISSUE,
EXTREME RIGHT ANNOUNCES MARCH 5 RALLY

REF: (A) ATHENS 258, (B) THESSALONIKI 13

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1. (SBU) SUMMARY: 93 percent of northern Greeks favor a veto of
Macedonia's NATO accession absent a mutually acceptable name.
Extreme right LA.OS and other nationalists plan to hold two
rallies in downtown Thessaloniki on March 5, but no one expects
a repetition of the huge 1992 demonstrations on the same issue.
LA.OS and Thessaloniki Metropolitan Anthimos oppose any proposal
involving the name Macedonia, but some conservatives seem open
to a mutually-agreed composite name. Politicians and media
blame the U.S. for the current name predicament but there are no
indications that next week's rallies will produce anything more
than angry rhetoric and possible flag burning. An outcome to
negotiations that crosses "red lines" or appears imposed by
Washington could elicit a stronger reaction. END SUMMARY

FAR RIGHT, CHURCH PLAN RALLIES FOR THE NAME


2. The "name issue" remains a highly emotional one for northern
Greeks, who consider themselves the "real Macedonians" and
guardians against "Skopjean" irredentism. Thessaloniki-based
nationalist groups have announced two separate demonstrations on
the name issue on March 5. The right-wing Institute of National
and Social Studies "Ion Dragoumis" will hold a rally in downtown
Thessaloniki, in front of the statue of Alexander the Great.
Extreme right LA.OS (Orthodox Popular Rally) president George
Karatzaferis will be keynote speaker. The "Global Committee for
the Macedonian Struggle" will hold a separate rally at about the
same time, featuring Metropolitan Anthimos, Democratic
Renaissance party leader and former MP Stelios Papathemelis and
academic/journalist Costas Zouraris. While turnout is likely to
be high, no one expects a repetition of the February 1992
demonstrations over the name issue, during which over a million
protesters flooded downtown Thessaloniki. LA.OS has accused the
organizers of the second rally of choosing the same time and
date as LAOS's rally in order to undermine it and help the
government.


3. The Greek Orthodox Metropolitan of Thessaloniki, Anthimos,

has been the most vocal and uncompromising public figure in
Greece on the name issue, opposing any use of "Macedonia" in the
eventual name solution. Frequently referring to the issue in
his sermons, he has urged the government to veto Macedonia's
accession to NATO and the EU and advocated a referendum on the
issue and the organization of mass rallies by the Church.
Anthimos's activism contrasts with his superior, Archbishop of
Athens and All Greece Ieronymos, who reportedly told reporters
February 26 that the name issue is "~outside the ecclesiastic
ethos."

MAINSTREAM POLITICIANS OPEN TO COMPOSITE NAME, AVOID RALLIES


4. (SBU) Two of Thessaloniki's most prominent politicians,
Prefect Panagiotis Psomiadis and Mayor Vassilios
Papageorgopoulos, who are both from conservative governing party
New Democracy and considered hardliners on the name issue,
recently announced they will not attend any rallies. Psomiadis
told journalists he was skeptical a rally would attract a large
number of people or be effective: "I am against rallies because
nowadays everything is resolved on the diplomatic table." Mayor
Papageorgopoulos reportedly stated that he does not like the
Nimetz proposals but "Greece cannot abstain from negotiations."
Thessaloniki-based ND MPs Costas Gioulekas and Theodoros
Karaoglou seem to have accepted the government's presumed "red
line" of a mutually-acceptable composite name (Ref A).
Karaoglou told journalists "we would obviously prefer a name
without the word Macedonia in it but politics is the art of the
feasible and not of the desired." Socialist PASOK and leftist
politicians in the north have criticized GoG handling and U.S.
pressure but also accept the concept of a composite name.

PUBLIC OPINION AGAINST COMPOSITE OR DUAL NAME SOLUTION


5. (SBU) A late February poll (to be published March 2 by local
daily "Makedonia") shows that 93 percent of northern Greeks
favor a veto in the absence of a mutually acceptable name. 75
percent oppose either a composite or dual name solution. Still,
most citizens have taken a restrained, wait and see approach.
There was almost no public reaction to the appearance of posters
in Thessaloniki signed by the "Coordinating Group Against Greek
Imperialism" accusing Greece of trying to reduce Macedonia to a
protectorate state. Also, there have been no large rallies.
Fewer than 50 people participated in a February 21 march
organized in Thessaloniki by the fringe far-right group "Hrisi
Avgi" (Golden Dawn) (Ref B) protesting Macedonian irredentism.


6. (SBU) COMMENT: ND politicians from the north seem to have
reluctantly accepted the current GoG negotiating position, or
are at least refraining from public dissent while this latest

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negotiating round unfolds. With a shaky one seat majority,
however, the government has little room to maneuver without
alienating its northern deputies or strengthening rival LA.OS.
Politicians and media blame the U.S. for the current name
predicament but there are no indications that next week's
rallies will produce anything more than the usual anti-American
diatribe and flag burnings. Northern Greeks might react
vigorously, however, if negotiations produce an outcome that
crosses "red lines" or appears imposed by Washington.
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