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08TASHKENT464
2008-04-18 12:45:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Tashkent
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DENMARK DELIBERATING A CARROT VERSUS STICK

Tags:  PHUM PGOV PREL SOCI DA UZ 
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/18/2018
TAGS: PHUM PGOV PREL SOCI DA UZ
SUBJECT: DENMARK DELIBERATING A CARROT VERSUS STICK
APPROACH TO UZBEKISTAN


Classified By: Political Officer Tim Buckley for reasons 1.4 (B,D)

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/18/2018
TAGS: PHUM PGOV PREL SOCI DA UZ
SUBJECT: DENMARK DELIBERATING A CARROT VERSUS STICK
APPROACH TO UZBEKISTAN


Classified By: Political Officer Tim Buckley for reasons 1.4 (B,D)


1. (C) Summary: Visiting Danish First Secretary Ulrik
Birk-Petersen met with the Ambassador and poloffs on April 16
to discuss the human rights situation in Uzbekistan. The
Moscow-based Birk-Petersen was in town to gather current
information ahead of the EU's April 28 sanctions debate. He
opined that Germany, which supports lifting sanctions, and
the Netherlands, which favors reinstatement, now represent
the poles of the spectrum. Denmark, he said, is still
undecided "and could go in either direction." Birk-Petersen
had already met extensively with human rights activists and
Uzbek officials. End summary.


2. (C) Birk-Petersen visited the Embassy on April 16 to seek
our viewpoints on the human rights situation in Uzbekistan.
Denmark does not have any diplomatic missions in the five
former Soviet republics in Central Asia, and the Moscow-based
Birk-Petersen is assigned to cover events in the region. He
wanted to gather updated information in advance of the EU's
upcoming decision on whether to reimpose its visa ban on
Uzbek officials. On divisions within the EU, he noted that
"all nations agree on the end goal" for what needs to happen
in Uzbekistan, but he added that "there is a strategic
question" of how to proceed. He said Germany, which supports
the idea of lifting the visa ban, occupies one end of the
spectrum, while the Netherlands, which wants to reinstate the
visa ban, is on the opposite end. Concerning the latter, he
told us the Dutch Foreign Minister has personally decided to
take a hard line on Uzbekistan. (Note: We do not know how
reliable his information is, but the French Ambassador to
Uzbekistan told our Ambassador on April 17 that he had heard
the Dutch would insist on resumption of sanctions unless the
Uzbeks accredited Human Rights Watch's new Russian-citizen
researcher by April 28. End note.) Denmark, he said, is
undecided "and could still go in either direction" after
deliberating the merits of a "carrot versus stick" policy

approach.


3. (C) Birk-Petersen noted that the Government of Uzbekistan
has met some of the EU's benchmarks in the past six months,
and Denmark is weighing the relative role the threat of
resumed sanctions may have played in those actions. He noted
that the Uzbeks clearly have a desire for improved relations
with the EU, above and beyond human rights considerations,
and that it is therefore difficult to know for sure what
motivated the Uzbek actions. Keeping that in mind, deciding
whether a resumption of sanctions is an effective strategy
for pushing for continued movement on human rights can be a
tough call. There is also a question, he noted, of whether
Uzbekistan is willing to endure resumed isolation from the
West. Referring to Uzbek comments about the repercussions on
EU-Uzbek relations, should sanctions be resumed, he would not
venture whether this was bluster.


4. (C) Denmark, which Birk-Petersen concedes has only limited
bilateral interests in the region (he commented on the
growing importance of oil and gas but said it seems the U.S.
is more concerned about securing energy supplies to Europe
than European countries),also appears to be taking a hard
look at the political alternatives in Uzbekistan. In meeting
with opposition figures, he was struck that one had three
sons in jail for membership in Hizb-ut-Tahrir (HT),which he
suggested might mean that extremism is the likely alternative
to the current Uzbek government. This is consistent with the
message the Ministry of Foreign Affairs delivered to him
during his official meetings, he said. MFA officials, he
said, told him that only tight state control prevented
Uzbekistan from becoming "another Afghanistan."


5. (C) Poloffs told him that, while radical Islam certainly

seemed at one point the only viable alternative to the Uzbek
regime, it was not clear whether this was still so.
Moreover, some in the Uzbek government seemed to have finally
come to the same conclusion the USG had reached years ago
about U.S. policy: that hardline tactics ran the risk of
empowering radical Islam. Birk-Petersen next asked poloffs
whether Uzbeks have an appetite for liberal democracy.
Poloffs explained that the question was somewhat skewed
toward Western thinking. Uzbeks in general have a desire for
a just and moral (and more prosperous) order, just as do most
Westerners. However, their frame of reference in many cases
is Islam, vice the ideals of liberal democracy. This is, of
course, not so for all Uzbeks, but it is true for many.
Poloffs explained that, to the extent western-style liberal
democracy might be compatible in their eyes with their
primary frame of reference, then an appetite no doubt
existed. Beyond that, however, if one listed for Uzbeks the
components of what we would normally consider to be liberal
democracy, most Uzbeks would say they want each of those
items.

Comment:
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6. (C) Birk-Petersen struck us as extremely thoughtful. He
did not seem to have a deep background in Central Asia, but
he seemed most certainly to have digested the many
considerations being bandied about within EU circles in the
run-up to the April 28 decision. His comments, along with
those in recent days from visiting officials from other EU
countries not represented on the ground here, suggest that
the terms of the debate are coming into sharp focus. The
Dutch are apparently moving toward a hard line, while many
others are digesting the arguments of the Germans and French
(who have Missions here) but are keeping their options open.

NORLAND