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08OSLO530
2008-09-24 14:38:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Oslo
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NORWEGIAN MINISTRY OF JUSTICE CLAIMS TERRORISM

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TAGS: ASEC CVIS PINR PREL PTER NO
SUBJECT: NORWEGIAN MINISTRY OF JUSTICE CLAIMS TERRORISM
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REF: A. A: OSLO 351

B. B:OSLO 308

C. C:OSLO 303

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REF: A. A: OSLO 351

B. B:OSLO 308

C. C:OSLO 303


1. (C) Summary: In a September 15 meeting with the Deputy
Minister of Justice Terje Pedersen, DCM stressed continued
U.S. concern over Norway's counterterrorism approach,
requested prompt attention to our proposed HSPD-6 agreement,
and asked about any improvements in GON procedures regarding
checking war criminal lists. Pedersen claimed that Norway's
law-enforcement tools were sufficient for fighting terrorism,
demurred on HSPD-6, said that in a recent meeting with DHS
they had come to an agreement on PNR, and stated that
improvements have been made on procedures for finding and
prosecuting war criminals. Police Security Services (PST)
Chief Jorn Holme's upcoming visit to Washington (October 6)
is a good opportunity to press the point on HSPD-6 and on the
GON's counterterrorism approach. End Summary

Counter Terrorism and the Bhatti Case
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2. (C) DCM carefully but forcefully laid out U.S. concerns
with Norway's counter-terrorism approach, citing the Bhatti
trial (reftel B) as an example of our concerns. Pedersen
said that he could not comment on the Bhatti trial, as it is
under appeal, but that in general the GON considers terrorism
a criminal issue and that Norway's law enforcement experts
view the current legal and investigatory tools as sufficient.
(Note: This matches what PST Chief Holme said to the
Ambassador in early summer and indicates a strong desire to
keep efforts to combat terrorism solely in the criminal
justice system.) DCM mentioned specific concerns and asked
if the GON would be reviewing counterterrorism legislation in
light of these problems. Pedersen said it was too soon to
make any conclusions about a counterterrorism law used only
once. DCM repeated that we remained concerned and suggested
we revisit these issues once the Bhatti cases is concluded
and MOJ officials could analyze the results and speak openly
about them.

HSPD-6
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3. (C) DCM stressed the importance of information sharing in
combating terrorism and asked what the status was on agreeing

to the information exchanges mentioned in HSPD-6. Pedersen
said this was an issue that should be handled by the MFA, but
when we reminded him that the USG had approached PST with
this proposal some time ago, Pedersen said that he would
follow up with PST and let us know who would handle it.

Trip to Washington. Progress on PNR?
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4. (C) Pedersen had recently returned from Washington, where
he met with Stewart Baker at the Department of Homeland
Security, with FEMA, the Justice Department and visited the
NCTC. At Justice Pedersen discussed how Norway could
contribute to establishing the rule of law in post conflict
situations. At the NCTC he was given a tour and was happy to
hear that cooperation with Norway is very good. At DHS
Pedersen claimed that he reached an agreement with Stewart
over PNR, with both sides agreeing to an exchange of notes
with would mention the EU PNR agreement but not include all
features of it. Pedersen said that the need for a note was
political and that he expected the process to be completed
relatively soon. Note: Press reports on the supposed PNR
agreement came out the next day and was quite critical of
U.S. privacy protections.

Improvement on War Criminals
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5.(C) After DCM inquired about the apparant lack of
procedures to check asylum seekers and other immigrants
against international lists of war criminals or terrorists
(see reftel C),Pedersen claimed that improvements have been
made. He pointed to the ongoing trial of a suspected war
criminal from the Balkans as an indication that the GON is
taking seriously its obligations.

Disaster Preparedness
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6. (C) In his recent trip to Washington, Pedersen visited
FEMA and was impressed by the thorough preparations he saw
for hurricane Ike. DCM thanked Pedersen for the good
cooperation the Embassy has had with Norway's Disaster
Preparedness Agency (DSB) and asked if DSB's recommendations
for a unified point of contact for communications with
foreign embassies had been established. Pedersen said that
the Oslo Police's embassy security section had been given the
responsibility to communicate with embassies in the case of a
disaster or terror attack. (Note: This is in reality not a
change from past procedures. Although cooperation with the
Oslo Police is good, the embassy security office is thinly
staffed and to our knowledge has no centralized system for
notifying embassies. If an officer is sick or on leave,
there has been little or no backup system in place. End Note)


7. (C) Comment: Consistent multilevel pressure is needed to
try to turn the view held by most GON officials that
terrorism is an American problem. PST Chief Holme's October
visit to Washington will be an excellent opportunity to press
him to agree on HSPD-6 and to re-enforce the importance of
taking the terrorist threat seriously.
WHITNEY