Identifier
Created
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08NAIROBI796
2008-03-20 11:54:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Nairobi
Cable title:  

Somalia -- Conversation with TFG President Yusuf

Tags:  PGOV UNSC PREL SO 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 NAIROBI 000796 

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/20/2018
TAGS: PGOV UNSC PREL SO
SUBJECT: Somalia -- Conversation with TFG President Yusuf

REF: A) Nairobi 734 B) Yates-A/S Frazer email 03/18/2008

Classified by Special Envoy John Yates for reasons 1.4 (b,d)

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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 NAIROBI 000796

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DEPT FOR IO/UNP, AF/E AND A/S FRAZER

E.O. 12958: DECL: 03/20/2018
TAGS: PGOV UNSC PREL SO
SUBJECT: Somalia -- Conversation with TFG President Yusuf

REF: A) Nairobi 734 B) Yates-A/S Frazer email 03/18/2008

Classified by Special Envoy John Yates for reasons 1.4 (b,d)

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Summary
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1. (C) Ambassador and Special Envoy Yates met with President Yusuf to
discuss reconciliation efforts, the humanitarian situation, the fight
against terrorism, and security concerns. The President agreed to
take action on appointing a single point-of-contact in the TFG on
humanitarian issues, a longstanding request of the humanitarian
community. An April visit to New York for a Security Council meeting
was also discussed. End Summary.

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Flexibility on Dialogue
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2. (C) On March 17 the Ambassador and Special Envoy Yates met with
President Yusuf, who was briefly in Nairobi on his return from the
OIC summit in Dakar (where reportedly he received expressions of
support from Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia) and before he departed
for Kampala for a meeting of African leaders organized by Libyan
President Qaddafi. The conversation was a follow up to SE Yates
meeting on March 10 (Ref A) and focused on reconciliation efforts,
the humanitarian situation, and security concerns.


3. (C) In marked contrast to prior statements, Yusuf said that while
he remains opposed to dialogue with well-known terrorists, "if the
Americans support it" he is willing to get behind discussions with a
much broader swath of the opposition than he has previously
indicated. Echoing language used by Prime Minister Hussein, Yusuf
said, "let them [Islamic extremists] refuse to meet with us."
However, Yusuf also spoke of negotiating from a position of strength.
He said he told the Prime Minister that they cannot move forward on
reconciliation unless the TFG gets security under control and a
financially sound and functioning government in place.

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Security Forces and Training
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4. (C) The President expressed concern about the limited engagement
of AMISOM forces. While al-Shabaab may be gaining ground in the
countryside, Yusuf lamented that AMISOM forces are not permitted to

fight actively. According to Yusuf, the Ugandans are under
instruction not to do anything unless they are attacked in their
camps. "That needs to be changed," he said. Ideally, Yusuf would
like to have a UN peace-making force in Somalia, composed of Arab and
other Muslim soldiers (Malaysia, Turkey, and Senegal were mentioned)
along with other African, UK, and U.S. soldiers, with AMISOM coming
under the UN umbrella. With regard to Ethiopian forces, Yusuf said
he was assured they would remain until June, but after that there
were no guarantees.


5. (C) Yusuf expressed appreciation for Ethiopian training of
security forces. Approximately 1,000 police and an equal number of
military forces have undergone training in Ethiopia. A new group is
soon to begin training. However, the supply of potential trainees is
growing thin. Puntland forces are engaged along the border with
Somaliland due to the longstanding conflict in and around Las Anod,
and they can no longer spare additional militia for Mogadishu. The
country needs 20,000 troops, said Yusuf, as well as equipment,
logistics, training, money for salaries, and other essentials the TFG
cannot afford. With what is available now the TFG can attempt only
to defend Mogadishu.

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United Nations Visit
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6. (C) Yusuf and his staff have been in contact with UN SRSG
Ould-Abdallah about traveling to New York for a Security Council
presentation on Somalia. There had been talk about a May visit when
the UK would chair the Security Council. However, SRSG Ould-Abdallah
expressed a preference for April, which would accommodate South
Africa's request to hold the meeting with Yusuf when they are in the
chairmanship. Following subsequent discussions the same day with
Ould-Abdallah and Yusuf's staff it was determined that April would be
a more suitable time for a Security Council visit (Ref B).

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Humanitarian Situation
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7. (C) The Ambassador urged Yusuf to do what he can to remove
obstacles to the delivery of humanitarian assistance, and to appoint
a single point-of-contact in the TFG for the humanitarian community.
(Comment: The point of contact issue is an important one for the
humanitarian community. They have urged the Prime Minister to
identify someone, and he has agreed in principle, but there has been
no action on this issue. End Comment). Yusuf claimed that NGOs in
general, and Somali civil society in particular, are tribally based,
focused only on narrow personal interests, and motivated solely by
money. "If you only knew what I knew you would hate these people
too," he said. While he asserted that Arabs are financing the NGOs
and extremists are running them, he assured us he would instruct the
Prime Minister to appoint a central point of contact on humanitarian
issues.

RANNEBERGER