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08LISBON2453
2008-09-09 15:28:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Lisbon
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PORTUGUESE LEGAL ADVISOR SHOWS SUPPORT FOR U.S.

Tags:  KJUS KLIG PREL PO 
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 09/05/2018
TAGS: KJUS KLIG PREL PO
SUBJECT: PORTUGUESE LEGAL ADVISOR SHOWS SUPPORT FOR U.S.
LEGAL INITITIVES

Classified By: Dana M. Brown, Pol-Econ Officer, Embassy Lisbon
Reason 1.4 (b) and (d)

C O N F I D E N T I A L LISBON 002453

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 09/05/2018
TAGS: KJUS KLIG PREL PO
SUBJECT: PORTUGUESE LEGAL ADVISOR SHOWS SUPPORT FOR U.S.
LEGAL INITITIVES

Classified By: Dana M. Brown, Pol-Econ Officer, Embassy Lisbon
Reason 1.4 (b) and (d)


1. (C) Summary: On the margins of the Secretary's visit to
Lisbon on September 4, Legal Advisor Bellinger met with
Portuguese MFA Legal Advisor Luis Tavares and covered several
bilateral areas of interest, including transfer of Guantanamo
detainees, Kosovo recognition, and Serbia's UN petition for
an ICJ opinion on Kosovar independence. Tavares spoke
frankly about the challenges facing both countries in
multilateral issues and was generally supportive of the U.S.
approach on the legal issues. End summary.


2. (C) Detainees: Bellinger raised this issue with Tavares
because Portuguese FM Amado has been helpful within the EU on
Guantanamo issues in the past. While the Portuguese
government does not support Guantanamo operations, it does
acknowledge that the post 9/11 challenges include mechanisms
that have not traditionally existed in international law.
The Portuguese also support our efforts to close down
Guantanamo by relocating detainees. (Note: In principle only
) Portugal has not yet accepted detainees. End note.)
Tavares suggested that the USG press FM Amado directly to
encourage him to turn the EU's focus to Guantanamo. He noted
that many member states had been distracted by the Irish vote
on the Treaty of Lisbon and moved away from discussing
Guantanamo and the way forward. He told Bellinger that the
trans-Atlantic component of the EU foreign ministers' meeting
(Gymnich) would specifically address Guantanamo. Bellinger
urged Tavares to consider pressing for resettlement now,
rather than waiting for the new U.S. administration. Both
agreed that it would be a good topic of conversation for the
Secretary's breakfast with FM Amado on September 5.


3. (C) Kosovo Recognition: Tavares said Portugal's delay on
Kosovo recognition came solely from President Cavaco Silva
and his advisors. In particular, Tavares claimed that Cavaco
Silva's legal advisor, who is a constitutional law
specialist, sees issues in black-and-white and fails to grasp
that grey areas are common in international law. When asked
whether Cavaco Silva would sign the final recognition, he
claimed that PM Socrates (who has the final say) would not go
against President Cavaco Silva because he did not want to
risk alienating the Portuguese Commander in Chief. (Comment:
PM Socrates also alluded to Cavaco Silva's role in driving
the timing of recognition in a separate meeting with the
Secretary. septel)


4. (C) International Court of Justice (ICJ) and Kosovo: The
GOP has told Serbia that it would not back its request for an
ICJ opinion on Kosovo's legal right to declare independence.
Tavares claimed that an ICJ opinion would "open a can of
worms and we are not interested." Bellinger proposed a joint
strategy to quash the measure and Tavares suggested several
other partner nations who would be willing to oppose Serbia's
request. In particular, Tavares recommended that Lusophone
partner Angola, which has a non-contiguous region Cabinda, be
recruited to muster NAM member votes against the measure.
Tavares also noted that Spain and other non-recognizing
European partners would be wary in principle of seeking an
ICJ opinion on the issue of independence and would be
particularly helpful in opposing the Serbian motion.


5. (C) Chain of Command: Legal Advisor Luis Tavares reports
to the Portuguese MFA's Secretary General Vasco Valente and
not to the Foreign Minister directly. Tavares noted that it
can be frustrating since his immediate boss is not a
specialist in international law, so the Minister often skips
over the DG for legal decisions.


6. (C) Comment: Tavares' blunt identification of Cavaco Silva
as the reason for the GOP's slowness on Kosovo recognition
reconfirmed what others had glossed over in other meetings.
Tavares seemed confident that Socrates would not make a move
without Cavaco Silva's approval, something that had not been
suggested prior to this meeting. End comment.


7. (U) This message has been cleared by Legal Advisor John
Bellinger.
STEPHENSON