Identifier
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08JEDDAH498
2008-11-26 13:59:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Consulate Jeddah
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EGYPTIAN OFFICIALS IN RIYADH/JEDDAH COMMENT ON

Tags:  ELAB KIRF KISL KTIP PHUM SA SMIG SOCI XF 
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C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 JEDDAH 000498 

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/26/2013
TAGS: ELAB KIRF KISL KTIP PHUM SA SMIG SOCI XF
SUBJECT: EGYPTIAN OFFICIALS IN RIYADH/JEDDAH COMMENT ON
PLIGHT OF JAILED DOCTORS

Classified By: Acting CG CB Toney for Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d)

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 02 JEDDAH 000498

SIPDIS

E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/26/2013
TAGS: ELAB KIRF KISL KTIP PHUM SA SMIG SOCI XF
SUBJECT: EGYPTIAN OFFICIALS IN RIYADH/JEDDAH COMMENT ON
PLIGHT OF JAILED DOCTORS

Classified By: Acting CG CB Toney for Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d)


1. (C)SUMMARY: In 2004, two Egyptian doctors were arrested
in Jeddah on multiple charges including drug smuggling and
rape. Their punishment was recently increased significantly
by an appeals judge. Officials from the Egyptian Embassy in
Riyadh and the Consulate in Jeddah offered little support for
the doctors and commented that the matter has been overblown
by the press and by some within the Egyptian government. END
SUMMARY.

Doctors Arrested in 2004, Sentences
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Increased in 2008
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2. (U) Two doctors, Raoof Amin Muhammad Al-Arabi and Shawqi
Abd Rabboh Ibrahim were arrested in 2006 and 2007 in Jeddah.
According to an official release of information by the
Director of Health Affairs on November 14, Dr. Ibrahim was
arrested Oct 21, 2006 on drug trafficking charges with the
intention to sell. Dr. Al-Arabi was arrested on April 14,
2007 and was charged with similar crimes as well as getting
his sponsor's wife addicted to drugs. The statement alleges
that Al-Arabi sold drugs to Ibrahim. The doctors lost a
recent appeal and their sentences were increased, in the case
of Al-Arabi from seven years and 700 lashes to 15 years and
1500 lashes. Ibrahim was given 20 years and an unknown number
of lashes. His original sentence is not clear. The official
statement claims an illicit relationship between Ibrahim and
the sponsor's wife.


3. (C) An outcry of protest within Egypt, significant
international press coverage, and a decision by the Egyptian
Ministry of Manpower to ban the sending of some doctors to
Egypt raised the profile of the cases. The media and official
accounts of the crimes, punishments and personal connections
of the doctors vary significantly by source. Some stories and
officials allege that Al-Arabi was involved in the sexual
abuse and rape of patients. Media sources state that Ibrahim
was working for a royal family and got a princess addicted to

drugs. Ibrahim is stated by some sources to have had sexual
relations with some of his patients. By one account, Ibrahim
purchased the drugs used to addict the princess from Al-Arabi.


4. (C) Mohamed Safwat (First Secretary/Political Officer)
from the Egyptian Embassy in Riyadh met with PolOff in Riyadh
and Egyptian Consul Ali Al-Halawani met with Poloff in Jeddah
to discuss the case. Safwat asserts that the Egyptian
Minister of Manpower took it upon herself to ban any
additional Egyptian doctors from working in KSA. Safwat says
this was done without consulting the President or the MFA and
has annoyed the Saudis. There had been negotiations with the
Egyptians to open a chain of medical clinics in the Kingdom,
manned by Egyptian doctors, but this is now being discussed
with the Syrians. He holds his own government's reaction
partially responsible for the reaction. Al-Halawani claims
that there was never any attempt by the Egyptian Labor
Ministry or the Egyptian Ministry of Manpower to ban the
sending of all doctors to Egypt as some reports have claimed,
but only 27 specified hospitals.

Official Egyptian Reaction
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5. (C) Safwat noted that the doctors claim they were
pressured into signing a confession for the crime, with the
choice being that if they did not do so, they would
"disappear" and be handled outside the courts. This is one
basis for appeal along with the claim that the doctor (one or
both) was actually treating the princess for an addiction she
already had. Al-Halawani objected to the fact that the cases
of the two Egyptians remain linked in the courts.


6. (C) According to Safwat, the Egyptians were originally
hopeful for a pardon from the King, but that hope is now gone
because of the reaction in Egypt and the press attention that
has frustrated the Saudis. (Al-Halawani still thinks a pardon
is possible) Al-Halwani mentioned that the Egyptian Consulate
has passed the appeal of the two doctors to King Abdullah's
office. He claimed that this event does not signify consulate
support for the appeal and that this is a normal service the
consulate can provide. The case is also now pending the next
level of appeal at the higher courts. Unlike the appeals
court whose ruling can be overturned or upheld by the judge
of the original court, this higher body's decision is final.

Princess? Who said anything about a princess?

JEDDAH 00000498 002 OF 002


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7. (C) Safwat asserted that the "princess" in question is
related to Bandar bin Muhammad bin Abd al-Aziz (the son of
the infamous prince ordered that his granddaughter be stoned
to death for adultery in 1977). According to Safwat, Due to
the prominence of the family, the names have not been made
public. Media accounts often refer to a "princess." However,
Al-Halawani denies there is a princess involved and says that
the media has gotten it wrong.

"Lenient" Sentences?
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8. (C) An official statement released from the Egyptian
Embassy describes the penalties as "moderate". According to
Safwat, the crimes committed by the doctors should have
resulted in the death penalty. He noted that "it would have
been easier had they been executed." This would be the
normal punishment for trafficking in narcotics or for a
sexual assault. He said the "lenience" was not requested by
the Egyptians, since they believe the trial was fair. They
could not question the verdict without questioning the legal
system, which they accept in concept. Al-Halawani was much
more critical of the legal system, recognizing the disconnect
between law and practice in Saudi Arabia as well as the
strange practice of doling out additional punishments at an
appeal.


9. (C) Safwat said his Ambassador describes the lashings in
this way: The "lasher" holds a Qur'an under his arm, and
actually conducts the lashings with the forearm. It is not
done with a whip, but with a thin stick. Al-Halawani also
downplayed the significance of the lashings as a punishment,
remarking that the purpose is mostly embarrassment.
Al-Halawani stressed that the vast majority of Egyptians are
law-abiding in Saudi Arabia.


10. (C) COMMENT. The Egyptian Foreign Ministry seems intent
on minimizing the significance of this event, likely a
reflection of the primacy of remittance flows in directing
government action in labor cases. One troubling legal
ramification of the case is the handing down of increased
penalties on appeal, a result that will likely deter other
defendants from appealing their sentences and which may
further weaken an already fragile appeals system. END COMMENT.
TONEY