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2008-04-15 08:59:00
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ADMIRAL KEATING'S MEETINGS WITH KEY GOI OFFICIALS

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/15/2018
TAGS: PREL MARR MASS PGOV ID XB
SUBJECT: ADMIRAL KEATING'S MEETINGS WITH KEY GOI OFFICIALS

REF: A. JAKARTA 735

B. JAKARTA 222

Classified By: Ambassador Cameron R. Hume, reasons 1.4(b+d).

C O N F I D E N T I A L SECTION 01 OF 04 JAKARTA 000749

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DEPT FOR EAP, T, PM, ISN, EAP/MTS, EAP/MLS, EAP/RSP,
EAP/ANZ, EAP/CM
SECDEF FOR USDP/ISA/AP P.IPSEN
JOINT STAFF FOR P.CLEMMONS
NSC FOR E.PHU
USPACOM FOR G.CHRISTY

E.O. 12958: DECL: 04/15/2018
TAGS: PREL MARR MASS PGOV ID XB
SUBJECT: ADMIRAL KEATING'S MEETINGS WITH KEY GOI OFFICIALS

REF: A. JAKARTA 735

B. JAKARTA 222

Classified By: Ambassador Cameron R. Hume, reasons 1.4(b+d).


1. (C) SUMMARY: USPACOM Commander Admiral Keating met
President Yudhoyono and key defense officials on April 10-11
in Jakarta. He stressed support for Indonesia's progress on
military reform, the desire to expand cooperation further,
and Indonesia's strategic importance. GOI officials
expressed appreciation for U.S. assistance, and welcomed
greater cooperation, particularly on humanitarian assistance
and disaster relief. Admiral Keating reviewed U.S. views
regarding China. DefMin Sudarsono pressed for a cessation of
U.S. military training of Indonesian police forces. A
discussion with leading defense and foreign policy experts
will be reported septel. END SUMMARY.

PRESIDENT YUDHOYONO


2. (C) USPACOM Commander Admiral Keating met with a wide
variety of Indonesian officials during his April 9-11 visit
to Jakarta. President Yudhoyono was pleased with progress in
the bilateral relationship, including military-to-military
relations. The lifting of sanctions in 2005 had opened a new
chapter, with the resumption of cooperation. International
Military Education and Training (IMET) allowed Indonesian
officers to learn not only about military strategy and
tactics but also about democracy and Western values. There
was much Indonesia could learn from the United States.
Yudhoyono said Indonesia was grateful for U.S.
counterterrorism assistance, including the training of
police, prosecutors and judges. The coastal surveillance
system being established in the Malacca Strait and Sulawesi
Sea with U.S. assistance would help the Indonesian Navy to
control these important waterways.


3. (C) Keating agreed that the relationship was progressing

well, including as regards mil-mil relations. USPACOM was
grateful for the opportunity to work together with Indonesia
again and would continue to explore new areas of cooperation.
He stressed that there was potential for doing much more,
including in humanitarian assistance and disaster relief,
maritime security and counterterrorism. Indonesia was
important to the United States given its strategic location.
The United States supported Indonesia's military reforms and
wanted to help build its capabilities.


4. (C) Yudhoyono said one of Indonesia's contributions to
the joint effort against terrorism was to counter extremism.
Indonesian religious and community leaders were promoting
moderation and discouraging radicalism. Indonesia was also
joining in the international effort to fight transnational
crime and other non-traditional security threats. Indonesia
would look for new opportunities to cooperate. Keating said
the United States appreciated these contributions. It was
also important to block terrorist financing. The sharing of
information and intelligence was crucial in all of these
endeavors.


5. (C) Yudhoyono said Indonesia continued to provide
peacekeepers to UN missions, including stabilization police
for Darfur and a third rotation of troops for UNIFIL in
Lebanon. Yudhoyono was pleased to see that the recent summit
of the Organization of the Islamic conference (OIC) in
Senegal had promoted the principle of peaceful resolution of
problems. Indonesia wanted to be a model for an Islam that
was peaceful and democratic. Keating said the United States
saluted Indonesia's efforts in this area.

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6. (C) Keating expressed "cautious optimism" that North
Korea would eventually proceed with dismantlement of its
nuclear facilities and an end to its nuclear program. Much
work remained to be done, however. Tensions across the
Taiwan Strait remained a major concern, but the recent Taiwan
elections had not triggered any problems. So far, China had
not shared with the U.S. its intentions regarding the growth
of its military and defense capabilities. A U.S.-China
hotline connection had recently been activated, but China was
still relatively uncommunicative.


7. (C) Yudhoyono said a new balance of power was needed in
the region. Indonesia was very concerned about the South
China Sea, where competing claims to the Paracel and Spratley
Islands remained unresolved. Indonesia was watching China's
growing economic and military might, uncertain about its
implications. China was hungry for oil and other resources,
and the South China Sea could become a flashpoint. Both
Taiwan and South Korea had recently elected pragmatic
administrations which were more friendly toward China, and
China might be able to smooth the difficult relations between
North and South Korea. All of these developments would
affect ASEAN. On the other hand, an expanded ASEAN influence
could help maintain stability in the region. Keating noted
that USPACOM's Theater Security Cooperation program sought to
develop good relations with many countries in the region.
Strong bilateral cooperation could lead not just to greater
multilateral cooperation, but also to concrete collaboration.
Yudhoyono responded that it was imperative to solve problems
in the region collectively.

MINDEF SUDARSONO


8. (C) Sudarsono said Indonesia was the largest country in
Southeast Asia but had the most underfunded military. At
$3.5 billion, the official budget for 2008 met only 40
percent of the military's basic needs. Meanwhile the country
lost billions of dollars a year from illicit trade and other
activities which the military was unable to stop because it
lacked the resources to do so. The majority of the world's
trade flowed through Indonesian waters. Indonesia's biggest
problem was the inability of its military to enforce
Indonesian sovereignty.


9. (C) U.S. assistance in establishing this capability was
welcome, Sudarsono said. Current U.S. support was much
appreciated and was appropriate, given the current political
sentiment in Washington. Indonesia remained on a graduated
course toward military reform and supported civilian control
of the military. Keating said the United States appreciated
Indonesia's efforts to provide security in its waters and
remained committed to helping Indonesia provide that
security. The United States respected Indonesia's
sovereignty, he emphasized. Sudarsono remarked that it was
important to respect Indonesia's sovereignty not just in a
purely legal sense but in a political sense, too.


10. (C) In recent talks with Australia, Sudarsono noted,
Indonesia and Australia had agreed that the United States
would remain the dominant power in the region, but might
delegate some of its authority in Northeast Asia. Australia
would continue to help in capacity building and perhaps could
do more. Keating said the United States wanted to strengthen
bilateral relationships with a view to weaving those into a
stronger regional peace and security fabric. Mutual
appreciation of the challenges and joint cooperation on the
multilateral level was important for the future. China was
the one country in the region with which the United States

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did not have the kind of working military relationship it
wanted. Washington was working hard to establish one, and
eventually would succeed. Indonesia could help by
encouraging Chinese engagement, Keating noted.


11. (C) Keating said USPACOM was eager to help Indonesia to
build a continuing cadre of non-commissioned officers, and
would continue to offer a robust educational program for
majors and lieutenant colonels under International Military
Education and Training (IMET). The U.S. Congress had some
concerns, however, PACOM's goal was to extend training and
exercises to all elements of Indonesia's Armed Forces
eventually. Keating described Indonesia's participation in
the Asia-Pacific Center for Security Studies (APCSS) program
as impressive, with a high graduation rate. Together, these
programs helped build relationships, which were important for
understanding and cooperation. Humanitarian assistance,
disaster relief and peacekeeping were promising fields for
operational cooperation.

MILITARY TRAINING FOR INDONESIAN POLICE


12. (C) Sudarsono expressed reservations about training of
the Indonesian police by U.S. special military forces and
asked that such training be transferred to non-military
providers. Sudarsono noted that this training had been under
way for some time but that Indonesia regarded it as
inconsistent with civilian rule and the separation of the
Indonesian national police from the military as part of
general military reforms. In this context, military forces
should train military forces, he emphasized; it was
inappropriate for military forces to train the police.
(Note: Secretary General Imron Cotan of the Department of
Foreign Affairs had made a similar point to Ambassador Hume
in a meeting on April 10, REF A.) The legislature (DPR) had
asked for an explanation of such training as well. Keating
noted that a Joint Combined Exchange Training (JCET) was
under way with the maritime police to provide training on
patrol boats recently provided by U.S. Department of Justice
assistance. Keating promised to look into the matter.

PANGLIMA SANTOSO


13. (C) Santoso thanked Keating for the opportunity to
co-host the Chiefs of Defense (CHOD) Conference in Indonesia
(November 2008). Indonesia was grateful for USPACOM's
assistance after the 2004 tsunami and the 2006 Yogjakarta
earthquake. Santoso recounted his positive meetings with
U.S. defense leaders in Hawaii in 2006 and in Australia in
2007 (detailed previously in REF B).


14. (C) Keating said Indonesia was in a strategic position
and its troops were well trained. All other countries in the
region recommended increased cooperation with the Indonesian
military, including personnel exchanges and education,
including NCOs. PACOM wanted to offer more education and
training for mid-level officers. Theater Security
Cooperation now included 136 substantive events in 2008, and
the quality of the events was rising every year. The
decision not to proceed with the Joint Combined Exchange
Training with the Indonesian Army Special Forces (KOPASSUS)
in April was a disappointing setback, but PACOM would
continue to work with Congress to seek opportunities in the
future.


15. (C) Santoso said he was aware of the situation regarding
the cancellation of the JCET with KOPASSUS. The Indonesian
Armed Forces (TNI) was looking forward to strategic defense
diQussions in Washington the following week, where MG

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Zamroni would head the TNI delegation. Santoso said the TNI
worked for the government and people of Indonesia and
conducted its activities within the government's policy
framework. The TNI would continue its effort to combat
terrorism within the scope of Indonesian law. The TNI
appreciated U.S. efforts to develop Indonesia's maritime
capabilities and secure its waterways.


16. (C) Santoso said the TNI continued to reform: the TNI
was out of politics and subject to civilian authority, was
withdrawing from business operations, was subject to civilian
justice, continued to professionalize its officer corps, and
was trying to improve the welfare of its personnel. The
Indonesian people had a good understanding of democracy and
had made great progress since the days of authoritarian rule.
Indonesia was confident of attaining its democratic goals


17. (C) Keating said the U.S. military understood the
magnitude of Indonesia's progress and applauded it.
Solidifying these gains, he emphasized, would help win
support in the United States. Washington was cognizant of
Indonesia's generous contributions to peacekeeping missions
in Lebanon and elsewhere and fully supported these efforts.


18. (U) Admiral Keating has approved this message.

HUME