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08HANOI464
2008-04-22 07:28:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Hanoi
Cable title:  

SOME IN GVN APPARENTLY UNWORRIED ABOUT SITUATION

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Classified By: Political Counselor Brian Aggeler.
Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).

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Classified By: Political Counselor Brian Aggeler.
Reasons 1.4 (b) and (d).


1. (C) Summary. An MFA expert on maritime issues recently
described the situation in the South China Sea in 2008 as
"stable and quiet." He expressed no concern about the
possibility of a reoccurrence of last year's fishing and oil
drilling disputes with China. On the other hand, he focused
on the Philippines' draft legislation to extend its maritime
boundary which, if approved, he said would disrupt the status
quo in the region. This official's remarks were a far cry
from GVN requests during the past six months for U.S.
engagement on the South China Sea issue and suggest that at
least certain circles within the GVN are not concerned about
a repeat of last summer's heavy-handedness by the Chinese.
End Summary.

VN-CH Discussions Focus on Land Border
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2. (C) On April 18, poloff discussed South China Sea-related
issues with MFA Committee on Frontier Issues, Marine Affairs
Department Deputy Director Nguyen Manh Hien. According to
Hien, South China Sea-related issues were not raised during
the April 7-17 Vietnam-China Demarcation Committee meeting.
The meeting, held in Ho Chi Minh City, was the 25th
chairman-level meeting of this body, whose work focuses
exclusively on bilateral land border issues. Hien explained
that there are two additional bilateral mechanisms for
addressing bilateral maritime issues, committees on the Gulf
of Tonkin area and the South China Sea, respectively. The
Tonkin Gulf committee completed its fourth meeting in January
in Beijing and Hien thought another round will take place
later this year, based on an agreement to hold bi-annual
meetings.


3. (C) Concerning the expert-level bilateral South China Sea
committee, eleven rounds have been completed, but the most
recent was in 2006. Since that time, the head of the Chinese
delegation has been "too busy" to meet. Hien said the GVN
has a standing offer to meet with its Chinese counterparts on
this committee. Since 2006, South China Sea issues have been
discussed at various meetings between Vietnamese and Chinese
officials, but no meetings have been dedicated exclusively to
those issues. Hien said that it is "easy to understand the

lack of progress" on South China Sea issues since the focus
of both governments has been on resolving land border issues.


4. (C) Hien continued that there have been no negative
developments in the South China Sea situation since the
beginning of 2008 and, except for the possible Philippines'
claim (discussed below),the situation has been "stable and
quiet." In his opinion, there will be no obstacles this year
that would keep oil companies from conducting exploration and
drilling in Vietnamese blocks, except for those caused by bad
weather.

Philippines' Expanded Claim has GVN's Attention
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5. (C) Hien continued with a lengthy description of draft
bill 3216 in the Philippines' legislature that would extend
that country's territorial claim in the South China Sea
beyond its current line. By recognizing proposed baselines
in the Spratly Islands and Scarborough Shoal, the bill, if
passed, would extend the Philippines' 200 mile zone into
Vietnamese waters. Hien said the 2002 ASEAN Declaration on
the Conduct of Parties in the South China Sea ("DOC") is
"still out there," so any expanded claim by the Philippines
would be "hard for the GVN to accept." He mentioned that the
GVN has raised the matter with the Philippines' government,
urging it to "not further complicate the situation in the
region," but that internal Phillippines' political issues
make it "difficult for the leaders to make a decision." Hien
also noted that China was "most concerned" about the
Philippines' action to extend its border.


6. (C) On the subject of the Joint Marine Seismic Undertaking
("JMSU") between the Philippines, China and Vietnam, Hien
said the subject area is small and limited to an area claimed
by the three countries. He acknowledged that there are
different opinions in the Philippines about JMSU's
territorial implications, but offered that the JMSU is
"simply a scientific issue" and cited the Convention on the
Law of the Sea ("CLOS") as encouraging countries to find ways
to cooperate, especially in areas where there are overlapping
interests. Hien thought the JMSU should be carried out to
completion in order to build trust among the parties.


7. (C) Concerning Vietnam's preparation to file its

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continental shelf claim under the CLOS, Hien said Vietnam
lacks necessary technology so the process is difficult.
Despite the difficulties, he was certain Vietnam's claim
would be ready for submission before the May 2009 deadline.

Comment
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8. (C) Although Hien has been a responsive interlocutor on
South China Sea issues in the past, during this meeting his
only interest was to express GVN concern about Philippines'
territorial ambitions. Questions about South China Sea
developments with China, prospects for the upcoming drilling
season, reaction to the JMSU scandal in the Philippines, and
an MFA outreach to U.S. maritime experts for advice were
brushed off with one line responses. In contrast, Hien waxed
at length about the proposed Philippine's territorial claims
as a violation of the DOC status quo. There was no trace of
previous appeals by GVN officials for U.S. engagement to
counter Chinese heavy-handedness in the South China Sea.
This suggests that at least some GVN circles do not currently
expect China to disrupt the status quo in that area or, if
they do, they do not look to the United States for a
solution. End Comment.
MICHALAK