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JCIC-XXXII: WORKING GROUP MEETING ON UKRAINIAN

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/24/2018
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SUBJECT: JCIC-XXXII: WORKING GROUP MEETING ON UKRAINIAN
ELIMINATION OF SOLID ROCKET MOTORS FOR FIRST STAGES OF
SS-24 ICBMS, JULY 21, 2008

REF: A. GENEVA 0572 (JCIC-XXXII-008)

B. GENEVA 0585 (JCIC-XXXII-009)

Classified By: Jerry A. Taylor, United States
Representative to the Joint Compliance and Inspection
Commission. Reasons: 1.4(b) and (d).

S E C R E T GENEVA 000587


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CIA FOR WINPAC
JCS FOR J5/DDGSA
SECDEF FOR OSD(P)/STRATCAP
NAVY FOR CNO-N5JA AND DIRSSP
AIRFORCE FOR HQ USAF/ASX AND ASXP
DTRA FOR OP-OSA AND DIRECTOR
NSC FOR LUTI
DIA FOR LEA

E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/24/2018
TAGS: KACT PARM START JCIC INF US RS UP BO KZ

SUBJECT: JCIC-XXXII: WORKING GROUP MEETING ON UKRAINIAN
ELIMINATION OF SOLID ROCKET MOTORS FOR FIRST STAGES OF
SS-24 ICBMS, JULY 21, 2008

REF: A. GENEVA 0572 (JCIC-XXXII-008)

B. GENEVA 0585 (JCIC-XXXII-009)

Classified By: Jerry A. Taylor, United States
Representative to the Joint Compliance and Inspection
Commission. Reasons: 1.4(b) and (d).


1. (U) This is JCIC-XXXII-011.

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SUMMARY
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2. (S) A Working Group Meeting on the issue of Elimination
of Solid Rocket Motor Cases for First Stages of SS-24
(Ukrainian issue) was held at the U.S. Mission on July 21,

2008. All Parties, except Belarus, were represented. The
Parties continued the discussion from the previous Heads of
Delegation meeting (Ref A) on the Ukrainian proposal to move
toward agreement on alternative elimination procedures for
SS-24 ICBM solid rocket motor (SRM) cases. The U.S.
Delegation explained that the U.S. proposal (Ref A) consisted
of a JCIC Agreement which would add specific provisions in
the Conversion or Elimination (C or E) Protocol that would
permit the Parties to agree on alternate procedures for
elimination of SRM cases that have had the propellant washed
out of the motor case and residual fuel burned out. Specific
procedures would be contained in a JCIC Joint Statement. The
new procedures would be added to those contained in the C or
E Protocol, which currently calls for the SRM cases to be
eliminated by explosive detonation, crushing, flattening or
cutting into two equal pieces.


3. (S) The Russian Delegation explained that its proposal
provided specific language for the draft agreement which
would have the effect of expanding the proposal to the
elimination of SRM cases for any type of mobile missile. The
Ukrainian delegation said it could support either formulation.


4. (S) The U.S. Delegation explained that it could not
support the expansion proposed by the Russian Delegation.
Resolution of this issue needed to be narrowly focused for
the Ukrainian SS-24 SRM cases. The delegations agreed to
review the draft texts proposed by the three delegations and
study the alternate formulations and take up the discussion
at a subsequent meeting.

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SS-24 ELIMINATION:
CALM BEFORE THE STORM
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5. (S) Couch opened the Working Group Meeting and welcomed
the Delegations. He then turned the floor over to Ukraine to
comment on the Russian-proposed text on the Ukrainian SS-24
SRM case elimination issue that had been provided to the
other delegations at the opening of business today.


6. (S) Shevtsov noted that JCIC Joint Statement 44 allowed
for phased eliminations of mobile systems without a Treaty
amendment. He said the Ukrainian Delegation had provided its
proposed Joint Draft Text to the other delegations at the
July 18, 2008 Working Group Meeting (Ref B). He highlighted
the Russian-proposed changes to the draft Ukrainian
Unilateral Statement on the Non-Transfer of SS-24 ICBMs to
Third Countries, which had been provided to the other Parties






at the opening of business this morning. He noted that the
United States had urged Ukraine to issue a statement of
policy, in accordance with these new procedures, that would
commit Ukraine not to remove any of the rocket motor cases
eliminated from the national territory of Ukraine without
prior notification. Ukraine said it supported the shorter
Russian-proposed formulation. Official translations of three
Ukrainian-proposed texts and three Russian-proposed texts
follow below.

Begin text of 3 Ukrainian documents (Unilateral Statement):

Official Translation

JCIC-XXXII
Joint Text
Ukrainian Side's Draft
July 18, 2008

Unilateral Statement

In connection with the adoption of Agreement Number
(blank) and Joint Statement Number (blank) at JCIC-XXXII, the
Ukrainian side reaffirms its willingness, in the commercial
use of eliminated cases of SS-24 ICBMs, to comply with the
START Treaty provisions on non-transfer of items to third
countries (Art. No. (blank)),as well as MTCR requirements,
which will preclude the unverified export of such cases
beyond the national territory.

End text.

Begin text (Joint Statement):

JCIC-XXXII
Ukrainian-Proposed Text
July 18, 2008

JOINT COMPLIANCE AND INSPECTION COMMISSION
JOINT STATEMENT NUMBER (Blank)

ON THE DESTRUCTION OF SS-24 ICBM SOLID ROCKET MOTOR CASES
LOCATED IN UKRAINE

The Parties, referring to the Treaty between the United
States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
on the Reduction and Limitation of Strategic Offensive Arms
of July 31, 1991, hereinafter referred to as the Treaty,
pursuant to paragraph 1 of Section I of the Protocol on
Procedures Governing the Conversion or Elimination of the
Items Subject to the Treaty, hereinafter referred to as the
Conversion or Elimination Protocol, have agreed as follows:

With respect to subparagraph 4(b) of Section I of the
Conversion or Elimination Protocol, for SS-24 ICBMs located
in Ukraine, the elimination of SS-24 ICBM rocket motor cases
remaining after removal of propellant by a process of washing
out the propellant and the subsequent burning of residual
propellant in each case may be carried out through the
drilling of a total of four holes, each no less than 80mm in
diameter, through the cylindrical portion of each such case
near the bottom of the motor case. Such holes shall be
positioned in two diametrically opposite groups, each
consisting of two closely spaced holes in one cross section.

............... (United States of America)



............... (Republic of Belarus
............... (Republic of Kazakhstan)
............... (Russian Federation)
............... (Ukraine)

End text.

Begin text (Agreement):

JCIC-XXXII
Ukrainian-proposed Text
July 18, 2008

JOINT COMPLIANCE AND INSPECTION COMMISSION
AGREEMENT NUMBER (blank)
RELATING TO THE TREATY BETWEEN
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE UNION OF SOVIET
SOCIALIST REPUBLICS ON THE REDUCTION AND LIMITATION
OF STRATEGIC OFFENSIVE ARMS OF JULY 31, 1991

ELIMINATION PROCESS FOR ICBMS FOR MOBILE LAUNCHERS OF ICBMS

The Government of the United States of America, the
Government of the Republic of Belarus, the Government of the
Republic of Kazakhstan, the Government of the Russian
Republic, and the Government of Ukraine, hereinafter referred
to as the Parties,

In accordance with the Treaty between the United States
of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics of the
Reduction and Limitation of Strategic Offensive Arms of July
31, 1991, hereinafter referred to as the Treaty,

To improve the viability and effectiveness of the
Protocol on Procedures Governing the Conversion or
Elimination of the Items Subject to the Treaty, hereinafter
referred to as the Conversion or Elimination Protocol,

Have agreed as follows:

Article One

Paragraph 4 of Section I of the Conversion of
Elimination Protocol shall be superseded by the following
provisions:

"4. Elimination process for ICBMs for mobile launchers of
ICBMs:

(a) if solid fuel has not been removed from stages,
the stages shall be destroyed by explosive
demolition or burned;

(b) Rocket motor nozzles and cases, as well as the
interstage skirts of a missile remaining after
completion of the procedures provided for in
subparagraphs 2(c),2(d),and 4(a) of this
Section,
or after the completion of static testing
provided
for in paragraph 3 of Section VII of this
Protocol,
shall be crushed, flattened, cut into two pieces
of approximately equal size, or destroyed by
explosion, or, in the case of rocket motor cases
remaining after removal of propellant by a



process
of both washing out and burning out of the
propellant, the Parties may agree, upon request
of the possessing Party, on procedures for the
elimination of such rocket motor cases by
drilling
of holes through the cylindrical portion of such
rocket motor cases; and

(c) The self-contained dispensing mechanism, as well
as the front section, including the reentry
vehicle platform and the front section shroud,
shall be crushed, flattened, cut into two pieces
of approximately equal size, or destroyed by
explosion."

Article Two

This Agreement shall enter into force on the date of its
signature and shall remain in force as long as the Treaty
remains in force.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the undersigned, being duly
authorized by their respective Governments, have signed this
Agreement.

DONE at Geneva on (BLANK),in five copies, each in the
English and Russian languages, both texts being equally
authentic.

FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:

FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF BELARUS:

FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF KAZAKHSTAN:

FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION:

FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF UKRAINE:

End text.

Begin text (first of 3 Russian-proposed documents):

Official Translation

JCIC-XXXII
Joint Text
Russian Side's Draft
July 22, 2008

Statement of Policy by Ukraine
Concerning the Use of Eliminated Cases of SS-24 ICBMs

In connection with the adoption of Agreement Number
(Blank) and Joint Statement Number (Blank) at JCIC-XXXII,
Ukraine undertakes not to transfer eliminated cases of SS-24
ICBMs to foreign states, their legal entities or natural
persons, or to international organizations, and not to export
them beyond the national territory.

End text.

Begin text (2nd Russian-proposed document):

Official Translation



JCIC-XXXII
Russian-Proposed Text
July 21, 2008

JOINT COMPLIANCE AND INSPECTION COMMISSION
AGREEMENT NUMBER (BLANK)
RELATING TO THE TREATY BETWEEN
THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND THE UNION OF SOVIET
SOCIALIST REPUBLICS ON THE REDUCTION AND LIMITATION
OF STRATEGIC OFFENSIVE ARMS OF JULY 31, 1991

CHANGES TO SECTION I OF THE CONVERSION AND (SIC)
ELIMINATION PROTOCOL

The Government of the United States of America, the
Government of the Republic of Belarus, the Government of the
Republic of Kazakhstan, the Government of the Russian
Federation, and the Government of Ukraine, hereinafter
referred to as the Parties,

In accordance with the Treaty between the United States
of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics on the
Reduction and Limitation of Strategic Offensive Arms of July
31, 1991, hereinafter referred to as the Treaty,

To improve the viability and effectiveness of the
Protocol on Procedures Governing the Conversion or
Elimination of the Items Subject to the Treaty, hereinafter
referred to as the Conversion or Elimination Protocol,

Have agreed as follows:

Article One

Subparagraph 4(b) of Section I of the Conversion or
Elimination Protocol shall be superseded by the following
provisions:

"(b) Rocket motor nozzles and cases, as well as the
interstage skirts of a missile remaining after completion of
the procedures provided for in subparagraphs 2(c) and (d),
and subparagraph 4(a) of this Section, or after the
completion of static testing provided for in paragraph 3 of
Section VII of this Protocol, shall be crushed, flattened,
cut into two pieces of approximately equal size, or destroyed
by explosion, or, in the case of rocket motor cases remaining
after removal of propellant by processes of washing out and
subsequently burning out residual propellant, the Parties
shall agree on procedures for the elimination of such rocket
motor cases, consisting of drilling holes through the
cylindrical portion of such rocket motor cases; and"

Article Two

This Agreement shall enter into force on the date of its
signature and shall remain in force as long as the Treaty
remains in force.

IN WITNESS WHEREOF, the undersigned, being duly
authorized by their respective Governments, have signed this
Agreement.

DONE at Geneva on (BLANK) in five copies, each in the
English and Russian languages, both texts being equally
authentic.



FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA:

FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF BELARUS:

FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF THE REPUBLIC OF KAZAKHSTAN:

FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF THE RUSSIAN FEDERATION:

FOR THE GOVERNMENT OF UKRAINE:

End text.

Begin text (3rd Russian-proposed document):

Official Translation

JCIC-XXXII
Russian-Proposed Text
July 21, 2008

JOINT COMPLIANCE AND INSPECTION COMMISSION
JOINT STATEMENT NUMBER (BLANK)

ON THE DESTRUCTION OF SS-24 ICBM SOLID ROCKET MOTOR CASES
LOCATED IN UKRAINE

The Parties, referring to the Treaty between the United
States of America and the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics
on the Reduction and Limitation of Strategic Offensive Arms
of July 31, 1991, hereinafter referred to as the Treaty,
pursuant to paragraph 1 of Section I of the Protocol on
Procedures Governing the Conversion or Elimination of the
Items Subject to the Treaty, hereinafter referred to as the
Conversion or Elimination Protocol, have agreed as follows:

With respect to subparagraph 4(b) of Section I of the
Conversion or Elimination Protocol, for SS-24 ICBMs located
in Ukraine, the elimination of SS-24 ICBM rocket motor cases
remaining after removal of propellant (by a process of
washing out the propellant, and the subsequent burning out of
residual propellant) ((by processes of washing out and
subsequently burning out residual propellant)) in each case
may be carried out through the drilling of a total of four
holes, each* no less than 80mm in diameter, through the
cylindrical portion of each such motor case** near the bottom
of the motor case. Such holes shall be positioned in two
diametrically opposite groups, each consisting of two closely
spaced holes in one cross section.

...............(United States of America)
...............(Republic of Belarus
...............(Republic of Kazakhstan)
...............(Russian Federation)
...............(Ukraine)

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* Translator's note: The word "each" is not reflected in the
Russian text.
** Translator's note: The word "case" was left out of the
Russian text. Presumably a typographical error.

End text.

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WHAT'S IN A WORD?
"MAY, SHALL, OR SHOULD"
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7. (S) Couch questioned the language in Article One,
Subparagraph 4(b) of the Russian-proposed agreement. In
particular, he questioned the Russian deletion of the word
"may" and replacing it with the word "shall" in the phrase
"...the Parties shall agree on procedures for the elimination
of such rocket motor cases,..." He said the word "may" was
an important distinction that should remain.

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SS-24 ELIMINATION: THE STORM
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8. (S) Ryzhkov said the Russian Delegation wanted to replace
the word "shall"" with "may" so that the new procedures being
established to eliminate Ukraine's SS-24 ICBMs could be
expanded to include all types of mobile missiles such as the
Topol (SS-25),Topol M (SS-27),and Peacekeeper ICBMs. He
said other options could be agreed upon, such as varying the
number and size of holes required to be drilled. Ryzhkov
said the Russian Delegation would work on the draft text and
respond later.


9. (S) Couch said that the U.S. Delegation would study all
three draft documents: the policy statement, the agreement,
and the joint statement that each of the parties had
provided. He said the primary concern remained the use of
the word "may" in the draft agreement. He said, after
review, the Parties could again take up this issue.


10. (U) Documents exchanged.

- Russia:

-- Russian-Proposed Text "Statement of Policy by Ukraine
Concerning the Use of Eliminated Cases of SS-24 ICBMs," dated
July 21, 2008;

-- Russian-Proposed Text of a JCIC Agreement on "Changes
to Section I of the Conversion and (sic) Elimination
Protocol, dated July 21, 2008; and

-- Russian-Proposed Joint Statement "On the Destruction
of SS-24 ICBM Solid Rocket Motor Cases Located in Ukraine,"
dated July 21, 2008.

- Ukraine:

-- Ukrainian Unilateral Statement of Policy on
Non-Transfer of SS-24 ICBMs to Third Countries, dated July
18, 2008;

-- Ukrainian-Proposed Joint Statement "On the Destruction
of SS-24 ICBM Solid Rocket Motor Cases Located in Ukraine,"
dated July 18, 2008; and

-- Ukrainian-Proposed Text of a JCIC Agreement on
"Elimination Process for ICBMs for Mobile Launchers of
ICBMs," dated July 18, 2008.


11. (U) Participants:

U.S.



Mr. Couch
Ms. Bosco
Mr. Brown
Lt Col Comeau
Mr. DeNinno
Mr. Dunn
Mr. Edinger
Mr. Fortier
Maj Gondol
Mr. Hanchett
Mr. Johnston
LTC Oppenheim
Mr. Smith
Mr. Tessier
Mr. Vogel
Mr. Yaguchi
Mr. French (Int)

KAZAKHSTAN

Col Akhmetalin

RUSSIA

Col Ryzhkov
Mr. Akulenok
Ms. Kotkova
CAPT (1st Rank) Kuz'min
Col Novikov
Mr. Shevchenko
Mr. Smirnov
Col Zaytsev
Ms. Komshilova (Int)

UKRAINE

Dr. Shevtsov
Mr. Bodarenko
Mr. Demidenko
Mr. Dotsenko


12. (U) Taylor sends.
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