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2008-07-22 14:43:00
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US Mission Geneva
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JCIC-XXXII: HEADS OF DELEGATION MEETING ON

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O 221443Z JUL 08
FM USMISSION GENEVA
TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 6768
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S E C R E T GENEVA 000565 


DEPT FOR T, VCI AND EUR/PRA
DOE FOR NNSA/NA-24
CIA FOR WINPAC
JCS FOR J5/DDGSA
SECDEF FOR OSD(P)/STRATCAP
NAVY FOR CNO-N5JA AND DIRSSP
AIRFORCE FOR HQ USAF/ASX AND ASXP
DTRA FOR OP-OSA AND DIRECTOR
NSC FOR LUTI
DIA FOR LEA

E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/22/2018
TAGS: KACT PARM START JCIC US RS UP BO KZ

SUBJECT: JCIC-XXXII: HEADS OF DELEGATION MEETING ON
UNILATERAL RUSSIAN BOUNDARY REDUCTION OF THE DROVYANAYA
SITE DIAGRAM AND MINUTEMAN III RVOSI, JULY 17, 2008

REF: A. GENEVA 0564 (JCIC-XXXII-007)

B. RUSSIAN-PROPOSED JCIC JOINT S-SERIES STATEMENT
ON CHANGES TO THE BOUNDARY OF DROVYANAYA
ICBM BASE FOR SILO LAUNCHERS OF ICBMS -
APRIL 6 2008 (E-MAILED FROM U.S.
EMBASSY-MOSCOW TO WASHINGTON D.C. - NO
REPORTING CABLE)

C. RUSSIAN NON-PAPER ON THE ONE-TIME DEMOSTRATION
OF THE MINUTEMAN III FRONT SECTION -
MARCH 4 2008 (E-MAILED FROM THE U.S.
EMBASSY-MOSCOW TO WASHINGTON D.C. - NO
REPORTING CABLE)

Classified By: Jerry A. Taylor, United States Representative
to the Joint Compliance and Inspection Commission.
Reasons: 1.4(b) and (d).

S E C R E T GENEVA 000565


DEPT FOR T, VCI AND EUR/PRA
DOE FOR NNSA/NA-24
CIA FOR WINPAC
JCS FOR J5/DDGSA
SECDEF FOR OSD(P)/STRATCAP
NAVY FOR CNO-N5JA AND DIRSSP
AIRFORCE FOR HQ USAF/ASX AND ASXP
DTRA FOR OP-OSA AND DIRECTOR
NSC FOR LUTI
DIA FOR LEA

E.O. 12958: DECL: 07/22/2018
TAGS: KACT PARM START JCIC US RS UP BO KZ

SUBJECT: JCIC-XXXII: HEADS OF DELEGATION MEETING ON
UNILATERAL RUSSIAN BOUNDARY REDUCTION OF THE DROVYANAYA
SITE DIAGRAM AND MINUTEMAN III RVOSI, JULY 17, 2008

REF: A. GENEVA 0564 (JCIC-XXXII-007)

B. RUSSIAN-PROPOSED JCIC JOINT S-SERIES STATEMENT
ON CHANGES TO THE BOUNDARY OF DROVYANAYA
ICBM BASE FOR SILO LAUNCHERS OF ICBMS -
APRIL 6 2008 (E-MAILED FROM U.S.
EMBASSY-MOSCOW TO WASHINGTON D.C. - NO
REPORTING CABLE)

C. RUSSIAN NON-PAPER ON THE ONE-TIME DEMOSTRATION
OF THE MINUTEMAN III FRONT SECTION -
MARCH 4 2008 (E-MAILED FROM THE U.S.
EMBASSY-MOSCOW TO WASHINGTON D.C. - NO
REPORTING CABLE)

Classified By: Jerry A. Taylor, United States Representative
to the Joint Compliance and Inspection Commission.
Reasons: 1.4(b) and (d).


1. (U) This is JCIC-XXXII-005.


2. (U) Meeting Date: July 17, 2008
Time: 10:30 A.M. - 12:30 P.M.
Place: Russian Mission, Geneva

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SUMMARY
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3. (S) A Heads of Delegation (HOD) Meeting was held at the
Russian Mission on July 17, 2008. All Parties except the
Kazakhstani Delegation were represented. The Russian
Delegation indicated it would make contact with the
Kazakhstani Mission to ensure that it was aware of the JCIC.
The Belarusian and Ukrainian Delegations made opening plenary
statements (Ref A). In lieu of opening plenary statements,
the U.S. and Russian Delegations made short opening comments
and said they wished to proceed to the substantive work of
the session.


4. (S) The Russian Delegation introduced the first issue,
regarding its request to obtain U.S. approval of the
Russian-proposed changes to the Drovyanaya former ICBM Base
for Silo Launchers of ICBMs site diagram. The U.S.
Delegation indicated a willingness to send the S-Series Joint
Statement to the Conforming Group pending clarification about

a reduction of site boundaries beyond which were discussed
during JCIC-XXXI and the inclusion of a previously eliminated
silo training launcher on the revised site diagram. All
Delegations agreed to set up a working group to address the
clarification requests.


5. (S) The Russian Delegation subsequently introduced the
second issue, regarding the possibility of the United States
conducting a Minuteman III (MM III) one-time front section
demonstration which would allow Russian observers to view the
inside of the lower one-third of the MM III front section.
In response, the U.S. Delegation reiterated that MM III
Reentry Vehicle On-Site Inspection (RVOSI) procedures were
treaty-compliant and the United States had made efforts to
assuage the Russian Federation's concerns with the
procedures. The U.S. Delegation pointed out that the United
States did not plan to change its MM III RVOSI procedures
and, if the United States performed a one-time demonstration,
it would not result in changes to the procedures used to
conduct subsequent MM III RVOSI inspections. The U.S.
Delegation asked the Russian Delegation to answer a question
originally posed during JCIC-XXXI regarding concerns about
the volume under the front section of the MM III. Both
Delegations agreed to set up a working group to further
discuss the issue.

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BELARUSIAN OPENING
PLENARY STATEMENT
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6. (S) After being welcomed to the Russian Mission by
Koshelev, Panomarev commented on his Party's hopes that
dialogue would resolve Treaty-related issues. He delivered
an opening statement (Ref A) and said that, although the
START Treaty was coming to an end, the START Treaty was the
most important treaty because it generated stability and
security. As such, Belarus was interested in maintaining the
START Treaty and was open to further discussion.

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UKRAINIAN OPENING
PLENARY STATEMENT
--------------


7. (S) Shevtsov also delivered a prepared statement (Ref A).
He stressed the economic importance to Ukraine of the
extraction of solid fuel from their SS-24 ICBM rocket motors
and indicated his government hoped the issue of SS-24
elimination procedures would be resolved during JCIC-XXXII
and the appropriate documents completed.

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NO U.S. STATEMENT
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8. (S) Taylor noted the United States' concern about the
absence of the Kazakhstani Delegation, but indicated his
willingness to proceed with discussions and complete
appropriate documents despite their absence. He indicated
that the U.S. Delegation would forgo a formal opening plenary
statement in the interest of getting right to work given the
ambitious JCIC agenda.

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RUSSIAN OPENING STATEMENT
--------------


9. (S) Koshelev indicated that attempts had been made to
contact the Kazakhstani Representative but he could not
explain the lack of communications between their capitals.
He added that the Russian Delegation would also forgo a
formal opening plenary statement in the interest of getting
to work. He commented that this was the first JCIC session
where the Parties would address the Article XVII requirement
to discuss whether the START Treaty would be extended. He
indicated his Party's interest in solving important issues,
such as the completion of continuous monitoring activities at
the Votkinsk Production Facility in Russia. Nevertheless, he
indicated that the Russian Federation believed it was
important to continue discussing technical issues of the
START Treaty throughout the Treaty's life.

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DROVYANAYA SITE DIAGRAM
--------------


10. (S) Koshelev introduced the first issue, regarding
Russia's request to obtain UnitedStates approval of the
proposed changes to the Dovyanaya site diagram which would
reducethe site boundaries for the former Drovyanaya ICBM
Base for Silo Launchers of ICBMs. He said that, following
the JCIC-XXXI discussions, the Russian Federation had
submitted an updated site diagram dated April 6, 2008 and an
accompanying S-series Joint Statement (Ref B) to the other
Parties. The Russian Federation's intent was to facilitate
use of the former ICBM related site by other Russian military
units. Koshelev suggested a Conforming Group to review the
Russian-proposed JCIC S-Series Joint Statement.


11. (S) Taylor said the United States had two clarifying
questions which, when satisfactorily answered, would allow
the U.S. Delegation to move forward with completion of a JCIC
S-Series Joint Statement on changes to the boundary of
Drovyanaya. Taylor stated the United States sought to better
understand why the proposed boundary changes, which were not
discussed during the previous JCIC session, were necessary
for this formerly-declared facility. His second question
sought clarification of why an eliminated silo training
launcher, which had been eliminated through explosive means,
was still depicted on the revised site diagram.


12. (S) In response, Koshelev requested written copies of
the two clarifying questions and indicated that his experts
would review the U.S. Delegation's concerns. Ryzhkov said
the preliminary view was that the depiction of the training
silo on the diagram was probably a technical error but he
would like to examine the issue. He indicated that the
reduction in the area of the site diagram was being made in
support of a local military unit that planned to use the area
for activities not related to the Treaty. He also indicated
that U.S. Inspectors had confirmed there were no items of
inspection in the specified area. The Parties agreed to send
the issue to a working group for further discussion.

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MM III ONE-TIME FRONT
SECTION DEMONSTRATION
--------------


13. (S) Koshelev introduced the second issue, regarding the
possibility of the United States conducting a MM III one-time
front section demonstration which would allow Russian
observers an opportunity to look at the inside of the lower
one-third of the MM III front section. Koshelev stated that
Russia had responded to questions posed by the U.S.
Delegation during JCIC-XXXI, in a non-paper dated March 4,
2008 (Ref C). He indicated Russia had welcomed the United
States' intention to find a solution to its concerns. He was
pleased to note that almost all of the United States'
questions had been answered in a positive manner and Russia
had added proposals which it felt would make the
demonstration successful. He requested further clarification
on the intentions of the United States and the acceptability
of the Russian proposals. He also suggested a working group
be established to discuss a technical plan for the
demonstration. Shevtsov indicated Ukraine's support of the
Russian proposal.


14. (S) In response, Taylor reiterated that MM III RVOSI
procedures were treaty-compliant and provided the inspecting
party more than sufficient information upon which to confirm
that MM III ICBMs contain no more RVs than the number of
warheads attributed to them. He stated that the United
States had previously provided detailed information on its MM
III RVOSI procedures and had implemented additional measures
in response to Russian Inspectors' stated concerns. He also
noted that the Russian Federation, in its non-paper,
anticipated the procedures used during an MM III front
section demonstration would be implemented for all future MM
III RVOSIs and then stated that the United States was not
considering a change to its MM III RVOSI procedures and was
instead only considering a MM III one-time front section
demonstration.


15. (S) Taylor stated that the United States welcomed
additional details from the Russian Federation to further
clarify its concerns and its objective for a one-time
demonstration. The Parties agreed to send the issue to a
working group for further discussion.


16. (U) Documents exchanged. None.


17. (U) Participants:

U.S.

Mr. Taylor
Ms. Bosco
Mr. Brown
Lt Col Comeau
Mr. Couch
Mr. DeNinno
Mr. Dunn
Mr. Fortier
Maj Gondol
Mr. Hanchett
Mr. Johnston
LTC Oppenheim
Mr. Smith
Mr. Tessier
Mr. Vogel
Mr. Yaguchi
Mr. French (Int)

BELARUS

Mr. Panomarev

RUSSIA

Mr. Koshelev
Mr. Kashirin
CAPT (1st Rank) Kuz'min
Mr. Lapshin
Col Novikov
Col Ryzhkov
Mr. Serov
Mr. Shevchenkov
Mr. Smirnov
Ms. Sorokina
Col Zaytsev
Ms. Yevarovskaya (Int)

UKRAINE

Dr. Shevtsov
Mr. Bondarenko
Mr. Chernyavskiy




18. (U) Taylor sends.
TICHENOR


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