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2008-11-28 15:26:00
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Embassy Budapest
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CLIMATE CHANGE: OUTREACH TO HUNGARY ON U.S.

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E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: ENRG KGHG SENV HU US EUN
SUBJECT: CLIMATE CHANGE: OUTREACH TO HUNGARY ON U.S.
ENGAGEMENT IN DECEMBER NEGOTIATIONS

REF: A) STATE 119282 A) STATE 112885 (NOTAL)

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E.O. 12958: N/A
TAGS: ENRG KGHG SENV HU US EUN
SUBJECT: CLIMATE CHANGE: OUTREACH TO HUNGARY ON U.S.
ENGAGEMENT IN DECEMBER NEGOTIATIONS

REF: A) STATE 119282 A) STATE 112885 (NOTAL)


1. (SBU) Summary: Ambassador Foley delivered USG
talking points on the 14th Conference of the
Parties (COP-14) of the UN Framework Convention
on Climate Change (UNFCCC) to Hungarian Minister
of Environment Szabo on November 20, and ESTH Hub
Officer followed up with Hungarian climate change
negotiator Tibor Farago on November 26. In both
meetings, the GOH emphasized that tangible
progress at the UN climate negotiations in
Copenhagen is necessary to demonstrate to the
public that leaders are serious about taking
action to address climate change, and that a
successful outcome cannot be achieved without
U.S. commitments. The GOH agreed that key
developing countries like Brazil, China and India
must also be included in a way that does not
compromise their economic development. The GOH
suggested that it would be useful for either the
U.S. or the UN to host a preparatory conference in
the U.S. between the December 1-12 negotiations in
Poznan and the targeted conclusion of international
climate change negotiations in December 2009 in
Copenhagen.


2. (SBU) While the Hungarian position does not
oppose the USG,s preference that COP-14 lay a solid
foundation for Copenhagen without limiting the
Obama Administration,s options, our sense is that
the Hungarians would prefer that the U.S. make firm
commitments and that they hope to learn more in
Poznan about the incoming Administration,s
policy position on climate change. End summary.

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Meeting with Minister Szabo
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3. (SBU) Ambassador Foley delivered USG talking
points on COP-14 (ref A) to Environment Minister
Imre Szabo in a twenty-minute meeting on
November 20. Szabo mentioned that the attendees
at the October 13-14 informal ministerial meeting
to discuss outcomes of COP-14 hosted by Poland in
Warsaw (ref B) are looking forward with high
expectations to America,s stance in Poznan.
According to Szabo, the ministers in Warsaw all
agreed that the U.S. has a decisive role on this
issue. He commented that a preparatory conference
in the U.S. sometime between the Poznan and
Copenhagen negotiations, hosted by either the
USG or the UN would be beneficial. The Minister
emphasized that climate change is a global problem
which requires a global response, and agreed with
the U.S. that key developing countries like Brazil,
China and India must be included in the process in
a way that avoids undue economic harm. Szabo noted
that there is no consensus within the EU on issues
such as the purchase by EU countries of rainforest
land in developing countries to offset their
emissions, and he did not comment on the expected
EU position in Poznan. (Note: Tibor Farago, who
represents Hungary at climate change negotiations,
was in Brussels meeting with the EU and other member
states on this subject on November 20. End note.)
Szabo reported that participants at the informal
ministerial in Warsaw commented that failure to make
progress in Copenhagen will undermine the chances of
implementation of commitments to address change made
in Kyoto, and create the public perception that
governments were not serious about these commitments.
The Minister expressed his own belief in the need for
a positive outcome in Copenhagen, noting that without
the U.S. such an outcome could not be implemented.

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Meeting with Tibor Farago
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4. (SBU) On November 26, ESTH Hub Officer and ESTH FSN
delivered the same talking points to Tibor Farago.
Farago,s response to the talking points concurred with
that of the Minister of the Environment. Farago opined
that the internal EU disagreements on the details of
the EU climate package will not have an impact on
COP-14. He indicated that the EU delegations were
interested in hearing what the official and

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"unofficial" U.S. delegations would have to say in
Poznan. ESTH Hub Officer advised Farago that our
understanding is that President-elect Obama will not
have representatives at COP-14.

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COMMENT
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5. (SBU) The GOH position does not preclude the USG,s
preferred COP-14 outcome of progress on laying the
ground work for the 2009 negotiations in Copenhagen,
without tying the hands of the new Administration.
However, our sense is that the Hungarians would prefer
that the USG make firm emissions reduction commitments
in Poznan, and they will likely try in Poznan to find
out more about the Obama Administration's plans on
climate change.
Foley