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2008-12-15 04:02:00
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AMBASSADOR VISITS NORTHEAST THAILAND AND DISCUSSES

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SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR VISITS NORTHEAST THAILAND AND DISCUSSES
POLITICAL TENSION AND ECONOMIC CONDITIONS WITH LOCAL
GOVERNORS

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Classified By: Ambassador Eric G. John, reason: 1.4 (b and d).

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TAGS: PREL PGOV KDEM ECON ETRD TH
SUBJECT: AMBASSADOR VISITS NORTHEAST THAILAND AND DISCUSSES
POLITICAL TENSION AND ECONOMIC CONDITIONS WITH LOCAL
GOVERNORS

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Classified By: Ambassador Eric G. John, reason: 1.4 (b and d).


1. (C) SUMMARY: During a visit to Northeast Thailand on
November 25-26, the Ambassador met with the Governors of
Udorn Thani and Khon Kaen provinces and discussed both the
current political tensions in Thailand as well as
deteriorating economic conditions in the region. While
acknowledging the current polarized political environment in
Thailand, both Governors emphasized that due to the
overwhelming majority of the pro-government "red" faction in
the Northeast, the region has experienced much less political
conflict than in Bangkok. Nevertheless, even in the
Northeast, there is ongoing tension between the
pro-government "redshirts" and the anti-government People's
Alliance for Democracy (PAD),although the conflict is
largely confined to urban areas. A former Foreign Minister
from the region expressed similar concerns over the political
divide in Thailand during a dinner with the Ambassador. With
respect to the local economy, the Governors described
worsening economic conditions in the Northeast, emphasizing
the return of unemployed workers from lost jobs in Bangkok
and abroad, as well as the fiscal burdens of the government's
price support programs for local rice farmers. An Entry
Level Officer accompanied the Ambassador on the trip,
attending all of the meetings. END SUMMARY.

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Political Tensions in Thailand
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2. (C) Khon Kaen Governor Manit Wattanasen discussed
Thailand's political problems at length in a November 26
meeting with the Ambassador, describing the current situation
as "not good," but he stressed that there is not much
conflict in his province. The "very small number" of
supporters of the anti-government People's Alliance for
Democracy (PAD) in Khon Kaen compared to the more abundant
"redshirt" government supporters results in minimal tension
or confrontation between the two groups. Manit described
Khon Kaen as a "red" pro-government stronghold where former

Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra is very popular and there
is strong disagreement with the PAD. He emphasized that all
eleven Members of Parliament from Khon Kaen province are
members of the pro-Thaksin People's Power Party (PPP -- which
was dissolved by the Constitutional Court on December 2).


3. (C) According to Manit, Thaksin's popularity in the
Northeast stems in large part from his debt suspension
program. Manit described the Thaksin-era three-year
moratorium on debt repayments as the most important thing
that Thaksin did for the region. He also cited Thaksin's
scholarship program, which provided educational opportunities
that the people of the Northeast had never before thought
possible. Thousands of students have taken advantage of the
program to study abroad and then return as leaders in their
community.


4. (C) Manit was surprised by the PAD's recent closure of
Bangkok's Suvarnabhumi Airport and described it as very bad
for the country's image. When asked who pays for the buses
that carry the "redshirts" to Bangkok to counter the PAD
demonstrations, Manit demurred: "As Governor, I cannot say."
Manit added that the reds are presently going to Bangkok "on
their own initiative," but that "if instruction is given to
the reds, they will go in large numbers."


5. (C) Asked how the political crisis in Thailand might be
resolved, Manit had "no idea," but agreed with the Ambassador
that legal and peaceful means were far preferable to another
coup. Responding to the Ambassador's comment that a coup
would only delay and make more difficult a long-term solution
to Thailand's underlying problems, Manit added that the
country would be more prosperous today if there had been
fewer coups. The frequency of coups, and resulting lack of
political continuity, has a paralyzing effect on civil
servants. In Manit's words, "they never know what is going
on or what to do."


6. (C) Udorn Thani Governor Amnat Pagarat shared Manit's view
that political tensions in the Northeast are tempered by the
overwhelming majority of the pro-government reds. However,
he described a more heated atmosphere in Udorn Thani than in
Khon Kaen, particularly in its urban areas. As a native of
Udorn Thani, Amnat has friends on both sides of the political

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divide - a relationship he described as "very hard." He
talks to both groups, seeking cooperation between them.


7. (C) In Udorn Thani, the PAD tend to be from the provincial
capital and, according to Amnat, are from every socioeconomic
class. He described their motivation as ideological, rather
than economic, but did not elaborate. Their complaints in
Udorn Thani mirror those of the PAD in Bangkok. The yellows
represent a very small percentage of the population, but are
very strong, Amnat said. He claimed the reds are also very
strong, primarily because of their numbers.


8. (C) The PAD supporters in Udorn Thani periodically travel
to Bangkok to participate in demonstrations. Amnat said that
they travel in organized buses, and in the days leading up to
the recent airport closure, about 100 PAD sympathizers per
day made the trip from Udorn Thani to Bangkok.

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Former Foreign Minister Echoes Concerns
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9. (C) During a dinner with the Ambassador in Khon Kaen on
November 25, former Foreign Minister Dr. Krasae Chanawong, a
native of that province, also shared his concerns over the
deep political divide in Thailand. Krasae confessed
loyalties to both sides, having served first as a deputy
under Chamlong Srimuang - now a co-leader of the PAD - during
Chamlong's tenure as Bangkok Governor and later as an Advisor
to PM Thaksin. Krasae has remained neutral during the
crisis, despite pressure to side with or against the
government.


10. (C) Krasae described Chamlong as a friend and a good man.
However, he criticized him as a political ascetic -
unyielding in ideology and possessing a fervent belief in the
purity of his cause that leaves him incapable of compromise.
Krasae did not offer an opinion of Thaksin and avoided
expressing any view of how the current crisis might or should
end. Rather, Krasae sought counsel from the Ambassador
regarding how he and Thailand should deal with the current
political turmoil. The Ambassador emphasized the importance
of patience and peaceful, democratic means. Krasae agreed.


11. (C) Krasae raised concerns over the international image
of Thailand, particularly in the wake of the recent airport
takeovers. Reflecting on the U.S. presidential election,
Krasae expressed admiration for the "maturity" of U.S.
politics - noting in particular Senator Clinton's and Senator
McCain's gracious acceptance of defeat during the primary and
general elections. Krasae's view was that Thailand,
notwithstanding its economic success, remains very much a
developing country politically - a fact that outsiders tend
to forget - and that it will need time to reach the level of
political maturity enjoyed by the United States.

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Economic Conditions in the Northeast
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12. (C) Both Governors discussed the deteriorating economic
conditions in the Northeast, but Amnat emphasized the impacts
of the global economic downturn, while Manit focused more on
local fiscal problems, such as the increasing burden of
Thailand's rice price supports. Amnat described the
weakening global economy as the biggest problem for Udorn
Thani province as an estimated 20 to 30 thousand people have
returned to Udorn from construction and factory jobs in
Bangkok and countries such as Taiwan and Korea, as demand for
exports has tumbled. These unemployed workers must be
absorbed back into the local economy and often have no other
option except to return to family farms. Amnat sees a
connection between the global economic downturn and the
domestic economic problems of the United States and expressed
his hope that the U.S. can quickly turn its economy around.


13. (C) As for economic development within Udorn Thani,
Amnat's view is that global economic constraints have forced
the province to focus almost exclusively on development of
its agricultural sector. There is a need in Udorn for
irrigation projects and an increase in agricultural
self-sufficiency.


14. (C) Manit, in contrast to Amnat, said that the return to

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Khon Kaen of unemployed workers from Bangkok and abroad is
not a problem at the moment, but he expected it to be a big
problem next year. Manit's more immediate economic concern
was for farmers under the government's rice price supports.
Citing rising fertilizer costs and other expenses which are
squeezing farmers despite the guaranteed sale price, Manit
said that responsibility for the price supports, which are
now well above the market price, had "fallen on the shoulders
of the Governor." Manit added that the rice industry was
also suffering from flooded fields, particularly in the
northern part of Khon Kaen province. Flood control systems
in the area proved inadequate this year to handle the
increased rainfall and will need to be improved and expanded
prior to next year's rainy season.


15. (C) Manit also emphasized the need to further develop the
transportation infrastructure between Northeast Thailand and
seaports in Vietnam, such as Da Nang, which for some parts of
the Northeast are closer than the main Laem Chabang seaport
on the Gulf of Thailand. Having additional export outlets
would benefit the economic development of Khon Kaen and other
provinces in the region. While the main bridge on the Mekong
River at Mukdahan and roads are in place, the accompanying
infrastructure is lagging. A program to promote the route to
Vietnam began under PM Thaksin, but foundered after the 2006
coup. While there is interest in the Northeast in restarting
the program, with the centralization of budgets that occurred
after the coup, the provinces no longer have the independent
means to push such initiatives. The importance of
alternative seaport access for Northeast Thailand was also
emphasized by Krasae.

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Khon Kaen Governor Seeks Further U.S. Assistance
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16. (C) While meeting with Khon Kaen Governor Manit, the
Ambassador described various community improvement projects
that U.S. companies in Thailand have initiated, such as water
development and conservation, computer donations to schools,
and teacher training. The Ambassador specifically mentioned
the Corporate Social Responsibility (CSR) initiatives of
Coca-Cola, Western Digital, and Microsoft. Manit showed
great interest in the projects and asked that the USG do more
to promote such projects in Northeast Thailand.
JOHN