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08BANGKOK3376
2008-11-14 09:23:00
CONFIDENTIAL
Embassy Bangkok
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PROGRESS IN THAI-CAMBODIAN BORDER TALKS

Tags:  PREL PGOV PBTS TH CB 
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E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/14/2018
TAGS: PREL PGOV PBTS TH CB
SUBJECT: PROGRESS IN THAI-CAMBODIAN BORDER TALKS

REF: A. BANGKOK 3366

B. BANGKOK 3234

C. BANGKOK 3227

D. BANGKOK 2487

Classified By: Acting Deputy Chief of Mission Robert D. Griffiths, reas
ons 1.4 (b) and (d)

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E.O. 12958: DECL: 11/14/2018
TAGS: PREL PGOV PBTS TH CB
SUBJECT: PROGRESS IN THAI-CAMBODIAN BORDER TALKS

REF: A. BANGKOK 3366

B. BANGKOK 3234

C. BANGKOK 3227

D. BANGKOK 2487

Classified By: Acting Deputy Chief of Mission Robert D. Griffiths, reas
ons 1.4 (b) and (d)


1. (C) Summary: Thai and Cambodian Foreign Ministers agreed
November 12 to a series of measures that will initiate the
process of delineating disputed border areas. The two sides
prioritized settling overlapping claims adjacent to the Preah
Vihear temple for survey work scheduled to begin in December.
Separately, Thailand's counter corruption body decided
November 13 that members of former Prime Minister Samak's
cabinet allegedly violated Article 190 of the Constitution.
The decision stems from the Cabinet's endorsement earlier
this year of a Thai-Cambodian joint communique supporting
Cambodia's application to list Preah Vihear as a World
Heritage site.


2. (C) Comment. The recent calm in the vicinity of Preah
Vihear and the agreements worked out this week are positive
signs. For the time being at least both sides appear to
understand that heightened tensions or further clashes would
not serve their interests in resolving the dispute.
Nonetheless, the agreements this week concern process and do
not touch upon the most sensitive issues. Difficult
decisions, such as compromise on overlapping claims in the
4.6 square kilometer disputed territory in the vicinity of
Preah Vihear temple, remain unaddressed and could lead to a
prolonged, contentious negotiation. The counter corruption
commission's finding against the Samak cabinet underscores
the restrictions that the Thai government must contend with
and points to what will likely be another impediment to quick
resolution of the dispute. It is not yet clear whether the
commission's finding will result in indictments. End summary
and comment.

PROCEDURAL PROGRESS IN BORDER DELINEATION TALKS
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3. (U) Thai and Cambodian negotiators made progress in
setting up mechanisms to delineate their disputed border
during November 10-11 Joint Border Commission (JBC) meetings
in Siam Reap, Cambodia. Thai Foreign Minister Sompong

Amornvivat and Cambodian Foreign Minister Hor Namhong
November 12 endorsed the JBC measures but could not agree on
the name to use in referring to the temple in official
documents. Thai officials insisted on using both the Thai
(Phra Viharn) and Khmer name (Preah Vihear) for the temple
because the Thai Parliament had used only the Thai name in
approving the border talks. Cambodian officials maintained
that the temple is internationally recognized by its Khmer
name and should therefore be called that name. Sompong said
publicly that consultation with the Thai Parliament is
required before proceeding on the issue of the name.


4. (U) The two sides agreed to prioritize delineating the
disputed border area adjacent to Preah Vihear temple, work
together to reduce troops in the temple area, and to use the
1904 and 1907 Siam-French treaties to help resolve the border
dispute. Hor Namhong and the chief Thai negotiator, Vasin
Teeravechyan, said publicly that joint surveying teams would
begin work to delineate the border around Preah Vihear temple
in mid-December. The two sides agreed to hold the next round
of JBC talks in January and to set up a temporary
coordinating task force to reduce the risk of further border
clashes.


5. (C) Mongkol Visitstump, Counselor in the Department of
East Asian Affairs at the Thai Foreign Ministry, told us the
meetings went well and much progress was made in determining

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the relevant treaties and documents -- most importantly the
1904 and 1907 Siam-French treaties concerning the border --
to be used in future negotiations. Mongkol said that
priority would be placed on surveying the area around the
Preah Vihear temple in order to re-establish boundary posts
that had been set by a French-Siamese Mixed Commission during
1904-1907. (Note: 73 markers were originally placed along
what is now the Thai-Cambodian border. MFA Permanent
Secretary Virasakdi Futrakul previously told the Ambassador
that only 50 markers remain (Ref C). End note.)


6. (C) Mongkol said the temporary coordinating task force
would include representatives from various agencies and would
try to forge an agreement to re-deploy troops away from the
pagoda inside the Preah Vihear and from the temple grounds.
The Royal Thai Army's Second Army Regional Commander
Lieutenant General Wiboonsak Nepal and the Cambodian Fourth
Army Commander would lead these discussions, Mongkol said.

NCCC FINDING ON FORMER CABINET OVER PREAH VIHEAR
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7. (U) Separately, the Thai National Counter Corruption
Commission (NCCC) November 13 found fault with the actions of
28 members of former Prime Minister Samak Sundaravej's
cabinet for allegedly violating Article 190 of the
Constitution in endorsing a communique that supported
Cambodia's bid to list Preah Vihear Temple as a World
Heritage site. Samak and former Foreign Minister Noppadon
Pattama were among those subject to this decision; their
alleged offense was that they participated in a Cabinet
meeting that decided to endorse the agreement signed by
Noppadon and Cambodia's Deputy Premier Sok An rather than to
submit the communique to Parliament for approval. It is not
yet clear whether the NCCC decision will result in formal
indictments by prosecutorial authorities against any or all
concerned.
JOHN